Who poisoned our culture and sexualised our children?

Naw. In light of human history and nature... Naw.

 

Same question to you. What overarching negative societal trends can you point to as a result of this oversexualization?

 

This example of yours actually nicely illustrates what I said earlier. Pedophilia was a lot more accepted just a few decades ago, with some politicians as you said openly advocating for low age of consent or its abolition, no child porn laws, and in practice molestation was often ignored or blaimed on the victim. Situation began to change in the 80s and mainly after widely medialised scandals in the 90s. Currently, pedophilia is viewed very negatively when compared to almost any period in human history. There is no moral decay in this area, quite the opposite.

 

I question your knowledge of history. Please elaborate.

 

Right.

So things like that and Jack Straw making it illegal for children to report being raped in care homes is an example of 'no moral decay'.

Jeez.

What upside down logic.

 

I think it started back in the 1970's after the War on Poverty stripped many of the family unit. Men saw no reason to stay with his family as the government would take care of them and began to cat around. Having children out of wedlock was no longer taboo. Movies and television got more risk cay also. Gone were the Playtex commercials where to show a bra off, it was worn over a pull over, or sweater. Gone was a couple sleeping in separate beds. Enter hotpants, see through blouses. The attack on religion didn't help either. Do what you want to do, there is no one going to see what you do anymore. Then with Vietnam, came the drug craze. Get high and you can do most anything. Look at the Liberal view, is most anything wrong anymore?

 

Many valid points here, IMO. And the decent into chaos is pretty much self-perpetuating as each new generation grows up being taught by voluminous example and ample cultural reinforcement that self-gratification is the prime directive. "But it's all right now... if ya can't please everyone, then ya gotta please yourself" doesn't make for very effective societal glue.

 

Would seem to be even more prevalent and more accepted by society in Europe, so I don't know what you are going on about "Americana".

 

Well tell the author then.

I only put his piece up.

 

Just another Euro, ragging on America, for the exact same thing that exist in Europe.

 

Not at all.

Not if you actually read the information and names therein.

Which you clearly haven't, and on that basis I can fairly dismiss your views.

 

I read both and my comment for which you have no reply still stands.

 

Well if you read both, you would not be asking the questions that you do, since the answers lie in the article itself.

 

The only difference between today and past times when it comes to sexuality is that we talk about it in the open now.

In the past, people were equally as promiscuous, but they were just more discrete about it.

Porn isn't the enemy, but statists always resort to things like censorship whenever their worldview is threatened.

 

I don't believe that to be true.

 

Had I asked even one question, you might of had a relevant point. I didn't and you don't.

 

Okay.

What is your actual point then?

Can you make one or something, because I am getting bored..

 

Same thing you've been responding to since yesterday morning. That porno-

You just cant seem to come up with a relevant response.

 

Yes it has corroded both the US and Europe.

Now what is your point?

 

Why? As far as I can tell, human nature is the same today as it was when we first left the caves.

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You have 2 choices, Jack.

Either you can live in a mostly free society while dealing with certain openly promiscuous people, or you can live in an oppressive society where religious fundamentalists control the media and your personal life while the elite continue to live promiscuously behind closed doors.

 

Yes, see, I was sort of working from the assumption that civil man had left the caves in deed and thought, but I can see I am wrong, therefore, on that basis, and since it probably would have been 'natural' for cavemen to rape a female, we should all just give in to 'nature', forget that pesky thing called 'consent', and go with the caveman approach.

After all, in your own words...

'human nature is the same today as it was when we first left the caves'

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False dichotomy.

 

Then I'd suggest you Goggle the report and acquaint yourself with the Wolfenden report and its worldwide repercussions related to permissible sexual behavior.

 

Put some snippets on here.

Make it part of the discussion.

 

You're confusing human nature with culture. Cultural values can certainly shape the actions of a society, but, for example, there is no rape epidemic in Norway despite having a very free and open media.

The FCC is far more restrictive on media content than Norway's equivalent is. The same goes for a lot of the rest of Europe, and yet, many of these countries have less rape as well.

I think you'll find that media has less of an influence on people than parenting.

In countries where parenting is lacking, rape and violence tend to be worse -- like in America and the U.K.

It's not a false dichotomy if you're looking towards the state for a solution on this.

 

S'okay, I found this;

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