Why do 'pro lifers' only care about life inside the womb?

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  1. Daggdag

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    I'll look for one.....During the 2008 election, she said many times that abortion should always be illegal no matter what.....I'm sure it will be easy to find a video
     
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    I didnt say anything about conversing with them, i just said we could probally find some
     
  3. Jack Napier

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    ....and their rich corporate buddies.

    Not those that they are meant to represent - the electorate.

    This is why I stay out of the system, and vote for none of them.
     
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    Still waiting...
     
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    That you wish to means ostensibly the same thing. They mean nothing, so objecting to their argument is stupid.

    It's like taking seriously the politics of General Winter or philxx on this forum.
     
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    Here, how about this;

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWC6yDZRwfE"]Sarah Palin: Abortion Illegal Even In Cases of Rape & Incest - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    They are.

    This is why there is no credible possibility of abortion being made illegal, in the US.

    Palin was a minor political figure, in the grander scheme of things.

    She never really had the support that you may have had the impression that she had - which is why she did not bother to humiliate herself, by running as a candidate, in the US elections, this time over.

    Had she really believed she had enough support, there is no doubt she would have run, imo.
     
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    Why do you want to reduce abortions?
     
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    Personally, I beleive that abortions should ONLY be legal when it comes to rape or when the mothers' life is in danger...

    There are enough people who would love to adopt newborn that abortion simply because a girl does not want to be a mother is meaningless.....She could give the child up for adoption for the same effect.
     
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    So killing someone is justified if their father was a monster?
     
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    do you support wars?
     
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    I care about life even before the egg and sperm are united. Therefore, I would outlaw the menstrual cycle and ........
     
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    Typically not.
     
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    So you think there are enough people that are willing to adopt and have the money to absorb all of the aborted humans?

    In 2008, approximately 1.21 million abortions took place in the U.S

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    Where are they going to work? Who the hell will pay for the sluts and punks making unwanted children? You perhaps?
     
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    Do you support the death penalty
     
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    If the mother had no choice in the conception, yes
     
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    There are millions of gay couples who would love to be able to raise a child.....Alot more than 1.8 million
     
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    1.8m per year. And when they come of age and there are no jobs for them?
     
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    Add in the couples who want to adopt internationally and it would easily absorb the yearly abortion rate.

    And if not having a job is good enough reason to abort than it should also count for already born people....lets kill all the homeless...
     
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    Well you can pay for them okay:) We have a lack of personal responsibility in this nanny State of Amerika. They can not be absorbed or we would not have homes full of them now.
     
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    The social changes (via social engineering) over the past century have caused all the subjects/problems that are the opposite of a civil society/system.
    Social engineering have turned the good/civil/normal things upside down (to make it a political issue) (caused an antagonistic attitude in the masses, and collectivism) People defend the ideology they believe in, because all social engineering was done (masterminded, and via politics/media inserted into the collective mind of the masses) to cause division (the political movements/groups)
    These subjects (which often have to do with reproduction/capitalism/ecology) do not have to be discussed in a civil world, because when there was civilisation none of these topics was a problem (the system worked)
    An elite and their political shield (politics) have created all these problems (subjects), for only one reason, to cause politicians, parties, voting and gain power over the masses (elites are rulers, always want their utopic system, and that is an empire and rule over the masses, today they try this on a global scale, world/global empire via the power of the US people, they are seeking to dominate the entire world) (they use the 'divide and conquer' and 'order out of chaos' tactics)
    The number of terms (terminology) and the subjects have grown over the century, the system has created so many problems, and all problems are discussed and never solved (the last president will solve them after a century, to reach that euforism in the people), they keep expanding problems (terror and ecological problems are added the last decade), they keep the masses busy, and today in motion (via caused revolutions and the revolutionary groups)
    In the mean while, they let the people vote and lured into their trap, elections/voting.
    'Pro lifers' again another term for a group. Sounds like 'truthers' (and they they say "you are a ....", and this is how they label persons)
    The system (elite) loves to play with the mind of the people (remember the phrase "there is a war going on for your mind"), and the people are confused or believe it, cannot see through all the deception and terminology, are lured into the trap called elections, this is how the establishment reach absolute power over the people one day (that day is nearing)
     
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    WRONG, people here in America adopt international babies, because there are already too many in other countries.
     
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    No they do it because:

    1. It is the in thing to do.
    2. They are not allowed to meet the US standards.
    3. Not because there are too many there because if there is one here it is too many to be leaving the US to get a kid.

    There are more reasons though.
     
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    Here is my view, and it is based on speaking to women who have had, at one point in their life, an abortion.

    I am of the opinion that having an abortion is actually quite a traumatic experience, for the person having it.

    It is an experience that I would want to avoid, if I myself were a women.

    Therefore, if you embrace a more sexually responsible social attitude, not abstain, just USE protection, then you avoid placing yourself in a situation in which you have an unwanted pregnancy to deal with.

    This one thing would lead to less abortions, less women having to go through the emotional trauma of having one, and, of course, be less of a drain on the NHS.

    I trust this explains my position?

    Thanks


    Jack
     
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