Why do 'pro lifers' only care about life inside the womb?

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  1. Thinker

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    There are over 7 billion people on the Earth not all of them can be rich, not all of the rich can support 7 billion people. Alot of the times people are poor just on coincidence, or because of their area, or if they dont want to work, or if they are just plain retarded
     
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    As Christians, you are supposed to live by the New Testament. THe New Testament overrides many of the rules and laws set down by the Hebrews when they made the covenant with God. Christ's act of taking flesh and sacrificing himself on behalf of Man nullified the Hebrew covenant. Yes, you should read the Old Testament to better understand the New Testament, but Christ's teaching override any conflict between the Old and New Testament.

    Of course, this comes from an Atheist who has studied the Bible in order to understand why Christians act the way they do.
     
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    I have a theoretical scenario for pro-lifers to think about.

    Say that there is a woman who is 7 months pregnant, who is in a bad car accident. The doctors said that her child received brain damage during the accident and was only being kept alive by her body, and would die within minutes of being born, and that she would die during childbirth from the amount of stress it would put on her body. She chooses to get an abortion in order to save her own life. Was she wrong?
     
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    Christ is the same God who wrote the Old testament, you dont just live by one, you live by both
     
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    would the kid be a normal kid or would it be vegetative?
     
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    Did I say 'rich'?

    It would be more than possible to ensure that all humans have a home, fresh water, and enough food.

    The reason why they do not is the greed of others.

    Not 'others' like you and I - the political and corporate elites, their greed.
     
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    politicians are considered to not have a soul, and the corporate elites dont just sit in their offices and laugh maniacaly at the poor people, they have to run a business and they do take care of the people who work for them.
     
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    The damage is too the parts of the brain that control breathing, and other base needs.....It would die within 5 minutes....It can't survive without it's mothers' bdy as life support.
     
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    Sorry - what do you mean?
     
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    Ya its ok then
     
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    There are pro life nutjobs who claim that the mother should die so the baby can live for 5 minutes.
     
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    I would hope that this hypothetical would have pro-abortion people thinking as well, wouldn't you?

    The mother has to decide whether the doctor is wrong, and whether she would wish to risk her life for the life of her child.

    If you hypothetical removes the variable of the doctor being incorrect (a variable that in reality cannot ever be removed), then you'll have to convince me that aborting the child is any less stressful on her body than giving birth.

    I believe many women have made the choice to deliver in similar circumstances.

    Either way, your hypothetical scenario is designed to do...what? Are you looking for any possible way to support the notion of abortion? Because it sounds to me like the child is brain-dead (meaning: already dead).
     
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    And - of course - this was your agenda.

    You're trying to argue with someone who isn't in this forum, and who you cannot produce.
     
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    you were right about politicians they just care about themselfs
     
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    I would hope any sane person would get a second opinion on an situtation like that. I typed doctors, as in mutliple ones.....
     
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    im sure we could find some
     
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    Sara Palin for example, has said multiple times that abortion should be illegal under all circumstances, regardless of whether the mothers' life is in danger or not...
     
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    however sara palin isnt in the forum, which is what he said
     
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    People who follow her are......So her opinions are still relevant
     
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    I like the idea of making Palin-supporters choose between disagreeing with her or advocating that women be forced to bring pregnancy to term in all cases.

    Really, I don't get why you guys think you're qualified to force women to bring a pregnancy to term in any case.
     
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    Are you talking to us or imaginary palin supporters?
     
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    Great. Enjoy your victory over 7 people who mean nothing in the larger picture.
     
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    I'm going to need a cite. I have never heard her declare something so definitively.
     
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    It's really an issue of whether or not people have the right to decide whether a woman is allowed to live or die......In my scenario, multiple doctors agree that her body will not be able to handle childbirth and she will die....

    Even if the child was not damaged, pro lifers would still be hipocrits in thinking they have the right to decide the woman should be forced to have the child at the cost of her own life.
     
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    Well I find abortion detestable and I can not figure the reversal of roles here.

    Why do conservatives generally go pro life and libs pro death? Well pro choice that is.

    I do and have always been pro-choice in my political views though I am pro-life in my personal views.

    So conservatives want to shrink government and get it out of the lives of people and they want to shrink welfare roles. Well pro-life costs money that we have to pay. We can in no way absorb all of the aborted children and honestly anyone who protests at an abortion clinic should be forced to adopt 2 or three of the things and get absolutely no assistance.

    Yeah it is easy to be pro-life and then (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about paying for it.

    Well if you are pro-life start voting (D) so I can identify the people calling for me to support more bastard children.
     
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