Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

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  1. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    This was according to a Fox News expert (of all places). But wait a minute, oops!

     
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    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

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    There is no evidence to the contrary.
    [QUITE]But, if you can provide one shred of evidence that a document expert has verified it's authenticity, I will retract my statement.[/QUOTE]

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

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    No,president has ever released their birth certificates or college transcripts.
    It is legally accepted everywhere in the US.

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    Yes, twice...........http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

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    Nobody is investigating. The issue is settled.
     
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    Over 200 have been.
    Actually it means exactly that.
     
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    He already cleared the issue when he released his birth certificate.....http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

    There is no reason to release his college transcripts.

    What was Reagan hiding? Why did he refuse to unseal his birth certificate and college records?

    Bush1? Bush2? McCain, Romney? What are they hiding???.?.??.

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    Lol, WND

    http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/files/2013/05/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
     
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    Correct, a certified copy, not a computer image.
     
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    A certified hard copy presented to a controlling legal authority, not a computer image. Have you Ohbamatrons ever heard of Photoshop or MS Paint?
     
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    Obama says in this press conference, "We've provided additional information today, about the site of my birth." Then he goes on for five minutes about other problems and calling the situation a side show or a distraction. Not once does he claim to have released a valid long form birth certificate. He also does not take any questions from the media on the subject.

    [video=youtube;bnYJI4QTpXs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnYJI4QTpXs#t=38[/video]
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

    From your link:

    She has only attested to releasing "the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama," not of Barack Obama. She further states that she has, "seen the original records filed," but does not state what records. She says she can "attest to the authenticity of the certified copies" but does not say certified copies of what. Of course, now that the only woman who is on record stating that she has certified something in Hawaii has died in a suspicious manner during a plane crash that everyone else survived, we'll never get to ask her. Too bad too. She had just paid $140,000 dollars towards her mortgage in one year on her salary of $90,000.

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/05/o...ed-hawaii-health-director-loretta-fuddy-paid/

    This letter from Governor Abercrombie does not qualify as expert testimony of the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Were the two copies given to Ms Corley hard copies, or computer copies on a flash drive? Again, if you can provide any expert testimony that the birth certificates are authentic, I will make a retraction. So far what you have provided is inadequate.

    Except the evidence I already provided.


    Link?

    The last document in the link below is from Director Fuddy, who claims she is forwarding two copies of a "computer generated copy" of his birth certificate. Why? Do they not have copy machines that can make physical copies of the actual birth certificates? No document expert has ever seen the actual birth certificate either.

    http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kpho/KPHO NEWS/20120717145710635.pdf
     
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    There is also quite a bit of speculation and 'funny business' surrounding Fuddy's supposed death at sea.
     
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    Several patriots here have claimed, seriously, that the moronic idiocy and moon howling lunacy of the GOP birthers is - sit down for this! - Obama's fault. Apparently he purposefully didn't release/delayed releasing/released fakes (again, the charge is ever changing) as a way to force the patriot birthers to say really nutty things and embarrass themselves and the GOP, which of course they otherwise wouldn't do. Obama MADE them act like racist chindroolers! And of course, this bizarre line of 'reasoning' I'm sure was also forced on them by the Great Dictator.
     
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    What moronic idiocy and moon howling lunacy? All I've said is that nobody has had an expert examine Obama's actual birth certificate. Nobody has proven otherwise, not you either.
     
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    No one pursuing this unconstitutional usurpation is embarrassed in the least. We MAY be embarrassed for the Congress, Republicans and Democrats, who have failed to act following their oath to support and defend. Embarrassed for the news media, including Fox, for ignoring this illegal action and conspiracy.

    What we saw in January of 2009 was a bloodless coup, a Manchurian Candidate installed by the Muslim Brotherhood to bring down the U.S. from within.

    Conservatives, whine and moan, how can this pResident be so stupid to do what he is doing, when truthfully if they would only look at it from the possibility of the position of "the birthers" it all makes perfect sense what he is doing and how cunning the plan has been.

    (Amazing, language used on prime time broadcast tv is changed to (*)s. Just saying)
     
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    Well, I gotta give you your props. In for a penny, in for a pound. Not really sure that doublin' down on bonkers is a winnin' strategy but one can always hope the GOP thinks so again..........................oh wait, the black guy won't be runnin' again. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
     
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    Law firms don't work for free. And cost estimates for such services to address dozens of suits are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nevertheless, the issue is the vault birth records which Obamas law firm(on retainer) has kept buried from the public eye. With that in mind, all the doubts remain. And consequently, nothing about his birth has been proven.
     
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    And so you are using more insults and ad hominem attacks to prove your point instead of providing proof. I hope another black guy runs again, Alan West. Oh and I voted for a black guy before you did, Alan Keyes. So if you are trying to imply that I'm racist too, you are sorely mistaken. So, ad hom attacks and playing the race card. That is all the wit you can muster?
     
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    He hasn't spent a single penny keeping them "burried". They are protected the same way yous is.

    And yes, his birthplace has been proven.
     
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    I just showed you the registrar and director of the department of health certified they are authentic. They are the only experts that can make that determination.

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    He has never tried to disarm me.
     
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    Birthirism as promoted by WingNutDaily........maybe.
     
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    Really?

    What cost estimates?

    Where did these unnamed estimators get their figures? Who are the law firms?
     
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    When I checked last before 2012 election, estimates for legal fees to suppress his nativity narrative were over $2.5 million. He has also been using the U.S. Attorney General's office, costing taxpayers. If there is nothing to hide, why not release his certified copy of his birth certificate to a controlling legal authority, i.e. Congress, and his college admission records, which should contain his stated nationality and birthplace.
     
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    Download or order a hard copy and pass these around, especially to your sheriff's department and any Congress-critter you are able to hand one to.

    Where is Obama's Birth Certificate offers two methods to download the
    Sheriff's Kit Ver. 1.8

    Option 1 - One file at a time. With this method the menu and the autoplay feature is not included.
    Option 2 - Download the ISO file or a Zip file. With this method the menu and the autoplay feature will be included.
    WOBC recommends the ISO file. It's fast and easy. Most burning software (Nero, Roxio, CDBurnerXP, etc.) will recognize the ISO format. Microsoft Windows 7 and 8 comes with it's own ISO burning software.
    Trouble with Downloading the Sheriff's Kit, Contact Mike Volin at: 570-394-2570

    http://wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com/
     
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    He already released his birth certificate, which was certified by the only controlling legal authority that can make that determination.

    His college records are completely irrelevant.
     
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    Because his father is not American. Most presidential candidates in the past (possibly all) have not had parents who were citizens of other countries. It's a special situation that requires special treatment.
     
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    Yup. "If there is nothing to hide....". I suspect his vault records conflict with his published ones. I think that where his published records state his birth at a hospital, his vault records will probably state that an at-home birth record was applied for. This was acceptable in Hawaii at the time (at home births). It could also mean that he was born elsewhere, then brought into Hawaii where his guardians then lied on the application for at home birth. At any rate, the curious point would be the conflict between the true vault record and the official Obama version.
     
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