Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

Obama's mother and grandparents could certainly afford to send him to college.

 

hatred has nothing to do with the facts

 

Yes, I'm sure the wit and astute verbosity of the slack jawed yokels in trailer parks are a joy to listen to when they explain why the GOP represents them.

 

Because in 2012, the Arizona Secretary of State asked Hawaii to verify Obama's birth again before allowing him on the November ballot. So it's not just some fringe element keeping this nonsense alive.

 

There were valid suspicions about Obamas birth place. So people wanted to see his vault records. He refused. So people sued to see them. And Obama hired a law firm to prevent anyone from seeing his vault birth records. That's where it stands, and why many, including myself, suspect Obamas unverified claims. It's really just simple math.

 

because he is a proven liar there for it puts into question every other statement he has made. the man has no creditability

 

I don't know that the Moon landing is in any way related to Obama's fake birth certificates.

When the birther movement was just beginning, I too thought that it was a bunch of conspiracy nuts. But being that it seemed to tick off liberals and democrats, I teasingly went along with it as a ruse to flamebait and aggravate liberals. I would challenge liberals to provide proof that the short form birth certificate was not a forgery, just to irk them. To my surprise, despite repeated dares, none ever took me up on the challenge. I didn't know if they were incompetent or lazy, but the libs could not provide proof the document was valid. This got me curious, so I decided to start looking into it myself, to play Devil's advocate, so that I could prove that the birthers were in fact a bunch of crazies. But the more I looked into it, trying to find evidence that the short form birth certificate was real, I found more and more proof that it was in fact a fake.

But I, like many others, found there were more important issues to debate. So, who cares about the SFBC? Then the White House released the long form birth certificate. I immediately gave credence to the document and settled into the fact that the White House had finally done what it should have done years earlier, just to put the issue to rest. Instead, the birther movement gained new life as it was once again proven that the long form birth certificate was also a fraud.

I do know that the reason people suspect that Obama is a fraud is because he has twice released documents purported to be his birth certificates which upon examination are obvious frauds. Perhaps if he would allow just one actual skeptic, a journalist and a document expert examine the documents, he could put it to rest. But he won't. Why, because they are frauds.

Every document expert who has taken a look at the documents released by the White House have came to the same conclusion. It's a fraud.

So, if any of you can prove that either birth certificate is real, please, I challenge you to do so. I have tried, as a Devil's advocate to prove that both of the birth certificates are real, and have failed on both counts.

[video=youtube;cv19avtHVcc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv19avtHVcc[/video]​

You can find multiple experts on the internet demonstrating why the documents are frauds, I have not seen any expert testify to the fact that they are authentic.

In none of the legal challenges, has Obama ever been forced to produce or willing to produce a valid birth certificate.

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012...ation-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/

 

The problem is not so much where Barack Hussein Obama II, a.k.a. Barry Dunham was born (Hawaii, Seattle, Vancover, B.C. or Kenya) but that he was born with divided allegiances; The U.S. via his birth mother Stanley Ann Dunham and British Protectorate of Kenya via his registered father Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

This condition is contrary to all known Laws of Nations for the definition of a natural-born citizen. Any other classification of citizen is only a citizen by fiat and eschews the expressed terminology of "natural-born".

This definition is supported by numerous historical documents before the signing and ratification of our constitution and since by numerous Supreme Court Cases, in spite of what the Obamatrons want to claim.

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Obama has not spent a single penny on any birther lawsuits.

Obamas birthplace has been proven beyond any and all reasonable doubt.

 

Lol birthers. No expert has ever declared his BC a forgery. The issuing legal authority has verified its authenticity.

 

No. His parents could have been Martians and he would be just as eligible. Parents are entirely irrelevant to citizenship status if born on US soil unless they have diplomatic immunity. This is settled law and has been explained to you over and over again.

It's also why you and Mario have lost every single legal challenge to date.

Birthers have a perfect record of fail in court. Last count I believe was 212 to 0.

 

Because it's a great way to get right wingers outraged and watch them make fools of themselves.

 

I'm glad you can say with such great confidence that his birthplace has been proven beyond any and all reasonable doubt. It should be quite easy to provide proof of such documentation. Sadly, you have neglected to provide this documentation or any evidence to back up your claim.

We can say with confidence that anyone claiming that, "No expert has ever declared his BC a forgery," is either a liar, or is completely misinformed. Did you watch the video? That was an Adobe expert. She declared it was a forgery. And once again, you can find many experts who say it is a forgery, I have yet to see one expert say it is authentic. You, like so many others have failed to provide any evidence that it is real. There is not one person in this country who has ever looked at the actual document in question who is an expert who has said it is real. How difficult would it have been to provide access to the actual document to a number of document experts to verify it's authenticity? Now, if what I just said is a lie, then all you have to do is prove it. If you can prove it, I will gladly admit that I was wrong.

 

The only fools I see are the people who believe that the birth certificates are real in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. But, if you can provide one shred of evidence that a document expert has verified it's authenticity, I will retract my statement.

 

Why should he?

Which other President has released all his records?

 

Why waste our time?

What you think is a moot point. . .face it, you lost and your kind's silly obsession with this fantasy is either going to disappear from history, or will be laughed at for the next 100 years!

 

You can go to any Presidential library for the past x number of presidents and see all their historical records, many of which were released before and during their terms in office.

The fools are the ones who believe anyone can show, to any government office, a computer image and request the office accept it as an official legal document. Try that at the airport, or at the pharmacy or at a traffic stop.

 

Tell me, did Obama in any of those court cases supply a copy of a valid birth certificate?

 

BTW, this issue is not finalized. Law enforcement and Congress is still investigating, albeit very slowly and carefully considering the uprising when The One is exposed for treason and fraud.

 

rahl-------------you need to watch this

 

You are right. The effort would be a waste of time. You could try for the rest of your life and you would not be able to provide such evidence.

 

No suit has yet been heard. No discovery has yet been taken. No indictment has yet been affirmed. That does not mean there is no crime, that does not mean there is no case, that does not mean Obozo is innocent nor a NBC.

 

Have you ever tried to obtain your REAL birth certificate?

All you would get is a COPY, and, if you pay a few dollars, a CERTIFIED copy. . .which is exactly what we have for President Obama.

And. . .EVEN IF something should happen in the next two years (or in the next 100 years) to prove that he wasn't born in the US (which is ridiculous, since his mother would have had to travelled all the way to Kenya, while VERY pregnant, and therefore unable to receive the required immunizations, by taking about 4 different flights. . . at a time when airlines were sparse and didn't allow late term pregnant women on flights!), what would that do?

President Obama has been in the White House for 6 years. . .and he has made history as one of the great Presidents.

What would you like to do? Erase 6 years (or 8 years) of the history of the US?

If that was even possible. . .I bet the majority would rather erase 6 or 8 years from Bush's history!

 

And you obviously couldn't prove anything either! Duh!

Enjoy your silly games.

They are armless!

 

rahl

The only one that is making a fool of himself is Obama. Simply put he could clear up all the controversy about his BC and college records by releasing them. Since he wont, it is quite apparent there are things in them that puts him at least a bad light.