Why do they let birthers keep going with Obama's Birth Certificate?

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  1. Injeun

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    So many questions but none about Obama. At least you have your priorities in the proper order.
     
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    Thanks! I do.

    I noticed you dodged the question, too. One of your compatriots claimed it was $2.5 million, but he has no source. I suspect he got it from a dark place that doesn't have a URL.
     
  3. Injeun

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    Believe what you want. Facts and reason suggest otherwise.
     
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    Whether a penny or a pound, you take him at his word. I don't. From the Democrat primaries to today, his lies are too many and too long.
     
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    Actually the facts are against you here.

    His BC was verified by the Hawaii department of health. There is no higher authority capable of doing so.

    Privacy rights protect all vital records. Obama has spent as much money keeping his records "sealed" as you have.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    Well since there are only two experts in the world and one is dead the other should be quite nervous. Your position is indefensible. There are tens of thousands of experts who can verify the veracity of documents. Trouble is, they didn't release a copy of a birth certificate, they released a copy of a computer generated copy of a birth certificate. I had the letter in a previous link but it got deleted by the mod. I'll have to see if I can find it again, as it took me some time to find this obscure document signed by the late director.
     
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    The only expert or body that can authenticate the document is the issuing authority, which is the department of health in Hawaii.

    They have authenticated it.

    You lose.
     
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    That is one scenario, that he was born in Canada (records place mom in Seattle prior to his birth), or Kenya (there to meet the in-laws and wife #1). Either of which would silence the Obamatrons. The information we do have from his claimed nativity account is his father's nationality which if true eliminates him from holding the office. The speculation based on photos and associations are that Frank Marshall Davis, pornographer, Marxist activist, writer, is his sperm donor. If true, his parents were both U.S. citizens and if he WAS born in Hawaii, he then is eligible.
     
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    Almost anything connected to this fraud can be found at: http://www.politicalforum.com/consp...ama-timeline-stuff-you-may-not-want-know.html
     
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    His mother was NOT in Seattle before his birth and she didn't leave the US at all until she married her second husband. To further put a kibosh on this birther idiocy... Kenya didn't have an international airport until the 1970s.. and it would have been a four day plane trip from Hawaii to British East Africa in 1961. Plus, women didn't fly in their 3rd trimester and they didn't fly in the weeks following childbirth.

    You have been taken in by a lot of stupid liars... Besides anyone with a 12th grade education can read the statutes for natural born US citizens..

    Additionally, his father was in the US on a student visa and that puts him solidly in US jurisdiction.. since no foreign country's laws apply in the US.. Duh!
     
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    Actually, they didn't authenticate it. Nobody has. Since it was posted on the White House website, not one individual has come forward to proclaim that the document posted on the website is the same document that was forwarded to the White House by the state of Hawaii.
     
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    Besides, authenticating a computer generated copy of a birth certificate is like authenticating a photograph drawn from someone's memory. It's not authenticating a copy of a document that was created in 1961. It's authenticating a copy of a document created in 2011.
     
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    I could care less whether Obama is or is not a US citizen. His mother is an American, so as far as I'm concerned he is an American. My problem is that he has committed fraud by putting out not one but two fraudulent birth certificates. And for what? What is he hiding? His actual father? Was it Frank Lloyd Wright the communist? I don't know, but I'm more concerned with the fraud aspect than anything else.
     
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    Most all States use the computer generated birth certificates these days.

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    Frank Lloyd the architect??????

    There aren't two birth certificates.. That's another pathetic birther lie.
     
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    I just showed you their authentication.

    Except for the director of the department of health.

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    His parents citizenship is irrelevant. You've been corrected on this hundreds of times. It's settled law. That's why you and Mario have lost every time you've tried that retarded argument in court.

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    Nope. Read the official release letter from the department of health. It's in plain English authenticating the original.

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    Proven lie. I've shown you they were authenticated.

    there is no fraud.
     
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    No... there is no fraud... but the hard thing to take is the fact that so many Americans are so ignorant as to fall for this birther routine.
     
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    LOL, oh right, Frank Marshall Davis, not Frank Lloyd Wright (I studied architecture and one of his buildings is close by).

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    Every birth certificate I have ever seen, and I used to work in personnel for the military, were copies of original documents. Whether generated from the original, or a microfiche copy of the original (how it is done in my state of California), it is a copy of the actual document. I have never seen a "computer generated copy" which was made to look like an actual copy of an original document.

    Here, I found it by doing a search through Orly Taitz's web site (sorry these are large):

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    Notice she says, "computer generated certified copy" of a birth certificate. Now you can see how it (Obama's birth certificate) looks different from an actual copy of an actual birth certificate of (or copy of) from the State of Hawaii:

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    It wasn't even an official legally accepted document. Try showing a traffic cop a computer image on your phone the next time you are stopped, or any government agency as proof of identity. Never happen.
     
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    [video=youtube_share;ID_KfcmG9gs]http://youtu.be/ID_KfcmG9gs[/video]

    [video=youtube_share;jgTZUVpb3dk]http://youtu.be/jgTZUVpb3dk[/video]
     
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    Of course it was.
    Every government agency in every state accepts it. It's called the full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. The COLB is the official BC for the state of Hawaii, every state accepts it. Over 30 states issue the same type of document when a BC is requested.

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    Lol, YouTube.
     
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    No... there were no valid suspicions... all there is .... a lousy public schooling .. I'll bet there are school teachers who are birthers. Its a real shame.
     
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    I wouldn't be upset about this, if I were you.

    Birtherism is the purest distillation of Obama derangement syndrome and the patent bigotry that accompanies it.

    All you have to do is read some of these post to see how utterly ridiculous all of this is.

    In any case, Obama has been President for six years, and will be for two more, no matter how much ranting goes on.

    The only question in my mind is why there is a sudden resurrection of this idiotic meme. They had been silent for two years.
     
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    You mean in lieu of a driver's license??? What are you trying to say?

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    The sad thing is that any high school student who passed civics should know better or at least how to read the statutes..
     
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    Is the U.S. Constitution worth defending?

    The media has been silent, the effort to hold our gub'mint to the U.S. Constitution which we are responsible to enforce, has never stopped.
     
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    Maybe you don't know that the statutes are based on the US Constitution.
     
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