Why it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Kenya

Yes.. Congress passed a mandate at the signing of the Declaration of Independence stating that all born in the British colonies would automatically become "American citizens".. I posted it yesterday.

Until then.. NO ONE was American born.

 

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For the third freaking time. Look at what Washing ordered in 1775:

“You are not to enlist any person who is not an American born, unless such person has a wife and family, and is a settled resident of this country.” George Washington, Given at headquarters, at Cambridge, this 10 July, 1775.

Washington says there were American born in 1775. Why should I believe you over his own words?

 

they can call it whatever they like, it had no legal effect or relevance. they were born british subjects, since there was no such thing as the US.

 

they could have viewed themselves as martians if they wanted. it would have the same legal relevance.

 

Yet Washington legally ordered American born was one qualifier in 1775. Plus, aren't you the same poster that claimed there were no US Citizens before the Constitution was signed? Lol.....think it's safe to gloss over your factually incorrect views.

 

U.S. CITIZENSHIP LAW
AND OVERSEAS AMERICANS
AN HISTORICAL SUMMARY

EXCERPT........

1907 Act of March 2, 1907, Section 6, 34 Stat. 1228, 1229.


"That all children born outside the limits of the United States who are citizens thereof in accordance with the provisions of section nineteen hundred and ninety-three of the Revised Statutes of the United States and who continue to reside outside the United States shall, in order to receive the protection of this Government, be required upon reaching the age of eighteen years to record at an American consulate their intention to become residents and remain citizens of the United States and shall be further required to take the oath of allegiance to the United States upon attaining their majority."


1934 Act of May 24, 1934, Section 1, 48 Stat. 797.


"Any child hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose father or mother or both at the time of birth of such child is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States: but the rights of citizenship shall not descend to any such child unless the citizen father or citizen mother, as the case may be, has resided in the United States previous to the birth of such child. In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday, and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization."

http://www.aca.ch/op4b.htm

 

How did naturalborn hack Margot's account?

 

This makes a huge difference. Knowing they viewed themselves as American born means there were natural born citizens over the age of 35 in 1789. They didn't define NBC because they understood exactly what it meant......American born.

 

no, there were no US citizens before there was a US.

I wouldn't be too quick to call someone elses posts factually incorrect. so far you're about 0 for 25.

did you convince arnold to run yet?

 

Then who qualified under Washington's order in 1775 for American born?

 

I noticed something in Clause 5. It gives two different kinds of qualifications and neither has a time limit based on that. The first part says:

Natural born Citizen.

The second part says:

A Citizen of the United States.

That fits perfectly with the two types of Citizens who existed. Washington was a NBC by virtue of birth in VA. Hamilton was a Citizen of the United States as he was born in the West Indies.

It does not say "Natural born Citizen of the United States." The reason they did not include "United States" is because candidates of NBC status automatically predated everyone else and gave a political advantage as voters would feel more confident in someone like washington who was a third generation NBC.

 

he was speaking about people who were born in the british colonies. there was no america.

 

I'm not ignoring anything. it doesn't have any legal relevance.

did you convince arnold yet?

 

why not put the rest of the quote in there. "a citizen of the united states at the time of the signing". that's what destroys your argument. not just any citizen can be POTUS. naturalized citizens are not permitted. only natural born citizens, and the "exception" citizens which no longer apply since they're all dead.

 

It really doesn't get any more pathetic than this. When someone actually rewrites what Washington wrote there is absolutely no hope of anything but dishonesty.

 

It was a legal order Washington gave. But you go on rewriting Washington's words to fit your agenda.

 

Reading Clause 5 proves washington did not see himself as a NBC? That is circular logic in fine form.

Why don't you explain for us how he ordered American born (which is exactly the same as Natural born) to be one of two ways to enlist in the Army in 1775?

 

I am not really sure where you get that that you had to be a Natural born to join the army in 1775. since the Continental congress order June 14 1775 for it to be created and it was created by local militias. and other troops

at the time it wasn't up to the government to create the army and get the soldiers. it was up to the individual colonies to create the militias as part of the Army.

If he counted himself and others as "Natural Born Citizens" then they would have had no reason to put into the constitution the part about or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution

 

I'm sorry you can't understand basic 6th grade civics. it really is a shame.

 

i'm not rewriting anything. america did not exist before it did. it was a BRITISH COLONY. there's really no arguing about that. reality isn't going to change no matter how hard you stomp your feet.