Why we see so many pro-Palestinian demonstrations?

Whenever and wherever tens of thousands of innocent civilians are killed by any military force, it understandably evokes condemnation from humanitarians.

 

You are mixing apples and oranges here and pretty much show you don't understand the history of that region. It was a relatively safe place, with both Palestinians and Jews living peacefully, all under the cloak of the Ottoman Empire. After WW1, we, the allies, namely France and Britain, divided the Palestinian area into two zones. The French Zone which encompassed modern-day Lebanon and Syria, and British Palestine, which is what we see as Israel, Gaza Strip, and the West Bank. In 1946, four Jews bombed the British HQ in Jerusalem, and the "War" began, which is what we now have, Israel, Gaza Strip, and the West Bank. Ever since then, it has been unstable all because of what happened in July 22, 1946 at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Since then, we have had the 1948 Arab-Israel War, the War in 1954, the Six Days War in 1967, the 1973 Yom Kippur War, and countless other terrorist attacks towards Israel proper. Israel got involved in the Lebanese Civil War where there was three factions, and other countries.

In the Gaza Strip, there have been three intifadas by the Palestinians. The list you gave is not associated with Israel directly or the cause of Israel. Boku Harem is a terrorist group in Nigeria, There is a Christian Terrorist group there too. Both have the same goal in mind, to make Nigeria in their image. Nigeria is a former French Colony with Christian, Muslim, and animalistic religions, with a variety of ethnic groups in the country. Furthermore, there have been protests, huge protests with the famous slogan of "No Blood for Oil" which those protests were in the US and elsewhere. The largest was in the UK where there were over 300k demonstrators. Some of the other conflicts has not been reported by US media nor did Americans cared about when it comes to Somalia, Yemen, even though the US Government officially protested the use of our weapons in that Civil War by Saudi Arabia, Sudan, etc. But we did get involved in Afghanistan when the Soviets assassinated the current president, took over the country, and tried to use the country as another satellite state when the Soviets was trying to find an alternative to the landlock issues they had when the winter came around. Thus, it is all about how we perceive the importance. The US has a large Jewish population here, as well as a somewhat large Palestinian population here. We even had a son killed and a mother seriously wounded not too long ago while not doing anything. We have had Mosques protested, attacked, or threatened since 9/11 in the US, and elsewhere in Western Europe on occasion.

In essence, this is a thread fail.

 

How about the media is giving far more coverage to the war in Gaza than it has given to any war before? Add the presence of social media to that and I think we have a viable alternative theory.

 

Nope - you totally didn't understand my question. I just showed a true fact, people don't care where hundreds thousands of people are killed by non-Jews, but are very upset when Jews react after brutal murder, rape and kidnapping of Israelis and killed unknown number of civilians. And it has nothing to do with history, which I can prove:
lets assume that Israel is worst country in the world and Syria is the most democratic and humanitarian country in the world.
Now the true fact is that 'the most democratic and humanitarian Syrian regime' killed few hundred thousands of civilians. Lets assume that Hamas never lies and the true number of killed civilians in Gaza is about 30 thousands.
Now which demonstrations should be larger - protesting killing of hundreds of thousand people in Syria or protesting against killing of about 30 thousand of people in Gaza (which was the response for murdering, killing, raping and kidnapping of Israeli civilians)?

 

Israel is supposed to be a democracy.

Israel has received more than $100 billion in aid from the USA.

Israel has a legacy of suffering from terrible persecution and bigoted violence.

Israel demands that the world see them as a bullwork against evil Islamist terrorism.

Therefore Israel should be held to the standard of a modern western democratic nation, and they are failing that standard miserably.

 

"Tradition"? That's all you could come up with? No! You did not show examples! You started with the premise that protesters are bigots and then you cherry-picked a handful of news that you thought confirmed your prefabricated assumption. I was hoping for something a bit more serious than that. At least more historically informed. If you were NOT cherry-picking, why didn't you include links like this one?
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...i-pm-netanyahus-house-anger-grows-2023-11-04/
...or this one?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-te...s-denounce-government-call-for-new-elections/

They're protesting against exactly the SAME things we protest here. There is no NEED to protest against Hamas. We KNOW that Hamas is a terrorist organization. What some people don't know is that the response by the Israeli government has made matters worse. So THAT is what those protests are about.

The ONLY ones who treat Jews different are the same ones who treat blacks, Hispanics, ... and ANY minority "different". They are called White Supremacists. And accusing people willy-nilly of being bigots is a naïve way to play into their game.

Bigotry EXISTS. But by you accusing people with absolutely NO basis, you do a disservice to all the groups that they target. Including Jews. Nothing could make White Supremacists happier than to have people think that their fixations are more popular than they really are.

So, bottom line, the intention of this thread was to accuse people of being bigots. Doing that is a complete DISERVICE to the cause of Israel against Hamas.

I expect Israel to be more righteous than terrorists. Is it a bad thing to expect that? I expect that because we HELP them. We support Israel against terrorist groups. If they were equally "righteous", why would my country support them?

For those reasons we can DEMAND more of Israel. It's why the ISRAELI people demand more of their own government. Because we can EXPECT more.

Now you know that people protest against things they can CHANGE. And this is true both in the U.S. and in Israel. But you won't see it if you start with a false premise (that protesters are bigots) and then you cherry-pick news articles to try to use them as confirmation of your bias.

 

Don't know how you come up with the word "innocent" for casualties of war. These "innocents" stood by and allowed their ruling powers to commit atrocities on "real innocents". When they don't get out of the way, they assure their own fate. They were given warning and Hamas would never think of doing that!

 

Ou yeah, you are absolutely right. I remember American media reaction on Trumps statements which were precepted as racists. Maybe you are right, but my guess is that if in Harvard Blacks students had to run away and hide in a library from a White crowd screaming ‘White people in America have to be free’ - at least one Harvard building would burned. Which one? I guess it will be Harvard synagogue (if such exist).[/QUOTE]

Over half the civilians slain were children and babies. Your need to blame them for the savagery of others is unfortunate. How many more do you want slaughtered?

 

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Over half the civilians slain were children and babies. Your need to blame them for the savagery of others is unfortunate. How many more do you want slaughtered?[/QUOTE]
Stupid implication I don't want any of them to be slaughtered. Their deaths are a fact of war. Especially when the enemy uses them as shields and parents don't take responsibility to get them out of the way. War is hell. When a culture of people allow evil there will be death. I hate it, but it has to be done....completely if we are to have peace.

 

What's wrong with the Jews? Are you an anti-Semite?

The main reason for pro-Palestine protest is empathy.
The world knows who's the perpetrator and who's the victim, despite all Zionist lie propaganda trying to sell 'israel' as the good guy.

 

People were protesting in support of the 10/7 terror attacks, before Israel ever responded.

 

Because they know Middle East history.
'Israel' has been massacring and oppressing Palestinians for decades.
It's actually a miracle that it has only escalated few weeks ago.

 

I don't accept your presumption that vast numbers of innocent civilians, mostly children and babies, must be slaughtered to defeat Hamas, whose leaders are not even in Gaza.

 

Well, the Iraq war prompted a million people to march in London chanting 'Not in my name', but Bush and Blair did it anyway.
All the others apart from the Afghans didn't involve Western governments, so not comparable.
Israel is carrying out genocide against civilians while the West looks on, and the US actively helps, hence the protests. Decent people don't approve of that.

 

Israel has started taking them out....good! Let's hear you apply equal compassion to the hostages left alive then you might show some credibility in your concern for human life! Evil needs to be destroyed and we can't be shy about destroying it!

 

Compassion for Israeli and Palestinian victims is not mutually exclusive.

Many in the civilized world, Israelis included, oppose the slaughter Netanyahu is inflicting on innocent children.

 

That, and the US funding and refusing to criticize it plays a large role here I think.

 

This is the same illogic that Bin Laden used to try to justify 9/11. And it could also be used by Hamas to try to justify their attrocity, Israel being held up as democratic.

 

Maybe, those other places have a different god.
Israel, Palestine, the West. All worship the same god. With differing views on what god wants from humans.

Maybe it's a war about god and the protests are about that god and beliefs.

Also, which wars/civilian casualties, receive the most media attention?
Perception is everything.

 

America did not use it's citizens as a shield to hide behind with military. There were no tunnels under the twin towers hiding military. Your logic is one of appeasement. Hamas attacked women and children as well as men citizens with no attempt to take on military. Your logic makes it sound like you might agree with genocide of Jews!

 

But you seem to care little about the innocent children taken hostage or tortured to death by Hamas let alone the promise of future atrocities by them. Yours just seems to be a passive/aggressive defense of Hamas/ Palestinians. So it is with demonstrators calling for cease fire.

 

Most are just empty souls who need something or someone to hate to give them the motivation to get out of bed in the morning.
Most are there for the connection to other people regardless of the cause. Of course it never hurts to be a beneficiary of a well organized professional protest organizer. Probably 10% are genuinely protesting. The rest are there for the party and the excitement.

 

The major role .. akin to having a mean rabid dog and letting it off the leash .. then claiming concern for the victim.

 

When that mean, rabid dog is protecting my child, I have no concern for the "victims".

 

"These innocents stood buy and allowed their ruling powers to commit atrocities on "real innocents"

Indeed this is both absurd and false logic. 1) The children and babies slaughtered did not allow their ruling powers to commit anything.. and what is it that we expected a 1 month old baby to do to prevent the ruling powers from atrocity .. or a 30 year old man or woman for that matter ?

Did you not stand buy while your ruling powers committed atrocity on "real Innocents" Yabber ? Please tell us what you did to prevent the slaughter of innocents by Rotten Ronnie .. or if your of a younger generation .. Bad Bad Biden ?