Will Palestine Arabs Integrate with Israel?

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  1. JewishIsrael

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    those anarchist and communists were not Jews alone, so that cant really be judged since it's not based on religion or state like today.
    But let me say that, Jews had been discriminated, had gone through horrors, antisemitism in Europe, holocaust and a lot more things that I don't know how to say in english. Was there ever in history a time that jews did what palestinians do? If you insist of calling it legitimate act of war that please explain to me why is it only legitimate when they do it while everything we do is despicable. Are we not allow ro defend ourselves from those who wish to kill us? or because you think that we deserve what we get means that we just need to sit down and wait for them to kill us?
     
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    yes there was, for example the Russian Empire of the late 19th early 20th centuries.
     
  3. JewishIsrael

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    Yes please tell me about the time we exploded in the middle of Russian streets(cynic)
    If it wasnt for Israel, palestinians would have gotten them sevles killed long ago, electrcity, food, water, gas, all comes from us. they dont even have their own resources
     
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    Even American media admits that Palestinians who lived their for 100+ years, are loosing their homes.
     
  6. Pronin24

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    Jews helped the "regime change" in Old Russia and they actively participated in the Soviet system all the time. A few set backs, though, because anti-Semitism was still live, Stalin personally did not like Jews. Nevertheless, Jews in a role of KPSS officials were as disgusting as Russians were.
     
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    well you can always find someone who disagrees but South Africa is probably the biggest supporter of Palestine due to Apartheid many saying it is worse than what they experienced.

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...church-leaders-endorse-israeli-apartheid-week
     
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    What are you doing here? Threatening the Palestinians. Suggesting Israelis are violent for no reason?

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    Well we all know what you think of the Israelis now. Do you really believe they would be allowed to commit genocide and survive?
     
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    Because in any case the person Arab or Jew could not prove ownership according to Deed/Khushan from the Ottoman Empire.
     
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    No, I think suicide bombing is immoral and reprehensible and does nothing for the cause of those who carry out such attacks, unless public support for the other side is fairly weak (not the case in Israel). Your dragging in justifications for past Jewish misbehavior is ironic, as the Palestinians would argue they have plenty of justifications as well.

    I guess my biggest problem with your rhetoric about Palestinians is that you are basically portaying them as being virtually subhuman. I would have thought a Jew of all people would be very wary of describing any group of people in such terms. The Palestinians are definitely the enemy of Israel (I won't rehash the argument over how that came to be) but don't fall into the trap of dehumanizing them.
     
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    About a year ago, I saw a broadcast by one of our food gourmet travelers. He visited Palestinians, ate tasty meals with them and shared with the rest of the world their grievances and hopes for their families. They were as much humans as any of us. American Jewish activists, of course, did not like that. My impression is Israel has what its people asked for. They have land, but no peace. They choose Netanyahu to be their leader.
     
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    Bedouins can cook great food like lamb with rice.. So what ?
    You need to open your eyes and face the fact that Palestinian leaders DO NOT want peace !!
    Their hatred is the cause to their misery.
     
  13. pessimist

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    Yes, the Russian Empire is famous for its anti-Jewish pogroms.
     
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    had every reason to do it, see.
     
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    This "every reason" is called anti-semitism. Nothing else.
     
  16. JewishIsrael

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    I'm not dehumanizing anyone, but when someone drives with his falimy to a Passhover dinner and suddenly gets shot while driving I belive thats sort of unhuman.(by the way the man died and his wife and kids injured if that intrests anyone)
    When I need to hear they are using woman and kids as human shields I think of monsters not of humanitrian people.. ofcurse saying that about all of them is stupid and I never said something that is true to all of them, only last week I returned from a project where I met arab people, we talked, shared intrests and worked togheter to learn new things and getting better at what we did there, and myself I tried to help the arab who barely speak hebrew bridge the divide between us so we spoke english, and we asked for his opinion about what we wrote and we wanted him involved, us, the monsters arab-hating Israelies.
     
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    how about jews who lived there 2000 years? and I am not speaking of the immagrates in the 20th century but of the religious jews who lived here in peace with the arabs for hundreds of years and one day they were just murdered back in 1929 , why? because the palestinians wanted to kill jews because they were jews and not because any land conflict. (it is worth mentioning that those religious jews didnt even want a jewish land because they belived it is a sin)
     
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    Yes, and they most likely would still be living in peace if it weren't for the tens of thousands of European Jews who immigrated to the country, with the intent of founding their own state.
     
  19. JewishIsrael

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    peace? you mean like the holocaust peace? or the lack of acceptence by the surrounding community peace? please do explain to me

    When jews were in europe it was "get them out we dont want them"
    When jews have their own country "get them out of there, they were fine in europe those greedy basterds"
     
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    Don't be rediculous. Islam wants all Jews dead. That will never change.
     
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    The peace that existed before European Jews began to arrive in massive numbers.

    The Allies should have given half of Germany to the Jews. The Arabs should not have paid for the evils of the Europeans. But that was some time ago, and no one really cares about Israel anymore. The Arabs have more pressing matters to consider.
     
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    Another "derp" comment.
     
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    why not give african americans egypt because of the brutal racism they faced in america?
    same principle
     
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    None so blind as those who do not see.
     
  25. Goomba

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    Indeed.
     

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