Woman Dies After Second-Trimester Abortion at Planned Parenthood

Since the issue of "when life begins" is too indecisive, I suggest that it not be binding on the legality of abortion. As long as a foetus is dependent upon the mother's womb for survival, her body is being imposed upon by the foetus and she has every right to end a pregnancy accordingly. Whether the foetus is destroyed or an attempt is made to save it, however, would be another matter. I feel that if it's late-term enough (and so developed enough) to survive outside the womb, efforts should be made to save the foetus, and preferably at the aborting mother's expense, except in cases where the pregnancy is health- or life-threatening to the mother.

 

According to the Talmud, part of Halakha, or Jewish religious law, a woman may abort a fetus when her life is threatened.

 

I'm glad my post hit the mark. Thanks for the feedback.

 

I'm not religious, so nice attempt at a strawman/ad-hom. I also don't want abortion banned, since it's a great way to keep liberals from reproducing (in addition to their own avoidance of having children). I'm just not that empathetic to someone who dies while trying to abort her inconvenient child.

 

Adios sista.

 

Probably more sympathetic if she dies delivering that inconvenient chlid
Fwiw we have about 800 maternal deaths per 100000 live births per year
Now that is a good way to die, wot?

 

Here you go!

310 First Street SE, Washington, DC 20003

Enjoy! Be sure to bring your biggest magazines! There is a lot of zealots there!

 

I read now this thread in all ... with these hate and counter hate, as well more peaceful writing done of both sides too.

In general 2 basic questions to all here:

Has a woman the right of her body or not?

All in all the comple deny of Question above with "No" has to do with Christian religion at least ... and what is about those who are not Christians ... or even more: There religions allow it? What then?

 

Many conservatives think not.

 

Education. Use it.

 

OK ... and at least it is again all backed on religious matter what the so called Bible tells and so all people have to live with it ... no matter if being Christian or not.

 

Something like that..

 

Mmmh ... rediculous at least, if it isn't that sad when such Christian idiots are depressing all others with their Religion ... and those trolls who are being so upset about when a Woman does.
Maybe they shall eat as punishment their holy bible and learn this way what their Jesus told in this book they believe in ... before becoming so un-Christian in their criminal behaviors against woman who do abortion.

 

Of course a woman has the right of her body, BUT, she also has the right to make sure that if she is going to have sex, she and her partner PROTECT themselves so that an unwanted pregnancy does not occur. Is it too much to ask that they show some RESPONSIBILITY?? After all, a LIFE is at stake if she becomes pregnant. There is a nifty deterrent. It's called the PILL.

 

It's not that simple. There's also the issue of whether the fetus has a right to its body. Usually pro-choicers (such as myself) make a self-defense exception. Either way, the argument needs to me made. It's silly to just evade it and assert the truth of your position on its linguistic merit lol.

 

This is a three year old story.

Sad it happened. It's an very rare occurrence.

 

OK ... in context you say that she has enough possibilities to prevent any unwanted pregnancy just before. But what is about any case when a girl / woman is abused and raped before and this went into pregnancy. For sure it was not her will here to be raped and for much more sure to become pregnant. Who has now the right about to decide if abortion or not?

Maybe an extreme, but often happened case. Others will be for example if pill was worthless crap or the condom went defect during sex and all these issues we all heard about or even had in our own live too. Same question as above, who has the right for decision then?

 

They have Obamacare now and don't need PP.

 

Another bumper sticker non-thought.


Could you explain how a payment plan replaces an actual building with access to it,, employees, equipment, electricity. ???

 

Fetus Farm is a "progressive" sacred cow and vital Democratic Party supporter & donor:

Planned Parenthood
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00314617

Taxpayers fund Fetus Farm and then Democrats get a kick-back...

 

The Pro-choice crowd likes to argue there are more miscarriages than abortions...and in fact nature aborts more pregnancies than abortion doctors....however it is very unnatural to surgically remove a fetus. A miscarriage is at least a natural process. The body removes the fetus without causing significant harm to the host. Abortion is traumatic for the body of the host.

 

Childbirth is traumatic for the body of the host. It is fourteen times more likely to result in death from childbirth than from abortion.

 

You're ignoring the death of 1.2 million unborn annually in America in your statistic.

Abortion is a surgical procedure designed to kill. It's intent is to kill.

The intent of childbirth is not to kill.

Of course your next argument will be...abortion is not really killing anything.

I've had these conversations over an over again.

It's the same storyline.

Abortion's purpose is to kill.

In every single case of a successful procedure...something dies.

The Pro-choice argues, it's not really killing anything..it's not a real person.

Biologically it's a human. Abortion kills a human...what else is it? An ostrich?
If abortion is not killing a human, then why the need to have an abortion?

Abortion's purpose is singular.

To Kill.

In all 53 million abortions taking place in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade federalized it...something was killed.

 

OK ... and what philosophy or what else makes you rating that this is killing? What of these things make you thinking that a woman has no right about to decide by her own? Your religion?