Would you drown a baby, if you thought its parents were evil?

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He seems to switch Straw man and Ad Hominem up whenever he has no viable argument, never actually using wither term correctly.

    It's kinda like sticking your tongue out and saying Nya Nya...you're a doo doo head.
     
  2. taikoo

    taikoo Banned

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    Do you have any idea how ridiculous your complaint is, when its based on the good ol' equivocation fallacy?
     
  3. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Hey!!

    I take my giggles where and when I can get them!!! LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  4. taikoo

    taikoo Banned

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    Did you ever watch C Chaplin in, "The Gold Rush"?

    You need a healthier laugh than a darn equivocation fallacy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ-cwld4p_c
     
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    Silliness is Silliness!

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    ok, sorry. maybe you prefer "the cat in the hat".
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    I more of a Horton Hear's a Who fan.

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    But if late term abortion's A-ok because the woman has total sovereignty over her own body - then how's it any different? It's not 'evil' since an individual has a right to their own property

    Telling God to do any different would be violating his property rights ;)
     
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    I wouldn't personally - but then again I don't have the power to eliminate any feeling of pain - or just reincarnate them in another body, or simply have created illusions (versus real babies) - now do I ;) (Assuming the event ever literally occured to begin with)

    I mean with an omnipotent God, all things are possible ;) - and then logic says that if God's intelligent and wise enough to create life, then he'd have done a scenario similar to one of the above, rather than cause pain for no reason other than just to be sadistic.
     
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    Any form of abortion that directly kills the fetus the wrong. God murdering people on purpose is likewise evil.
     
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    Assuming they were actually murdered - or actually felt any pain, not just brought back to life in another body after the fact - or in any dimension for that matter.

    This is why applying to 'supernatural' debates about "morality" don't work - since in theory if there's an omnipotent creator, then everything I just mentioned is possible.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    According to the Bible, God has himself brutally murder (via drowning) or ordered the brutal murder (by sword/spear) many many people. Said people, because they are "wicked", would then undergo the punishment proscribed for "wicked" people: eternal torture.
     
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    I'm just saying, in theory, if there's an omnipotent god (any god) - then he could just as well make things in such a way that no innocent person is ever harmed, or dies, or feels any pain - right?

    So this is why debates about god being evil because he "lets children starve" and things like that are stupid debates - since for all you know there's some explanation for it that transcends natural law.
     
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    This thread isn't about "any theoretical, omnipotent god". It's addressing the evil of the God of the Bible.
     
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    Oh, but see, SpaceCricket is showing that if God was totally different from the God in the Bible, He wouldn't the evil bastard He is in the Bible.

    You can't argue with that kind of apologia....C.S. Lewis himself would be blown away by it.


    :)
     
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    ...only from a literalistic perception
     
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    So the Bible does not recount true events?
     
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    In the words of Obi Wan Kenobi:

    "What I've told you is true... from a certain point of view"

    No I don't believe that they actually happened. But at the same time there could be a god, and to some people the Bible could a way in which "god reveals himself" to them, and I see no problem with that.
     
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    So the Resurrection could be....made up???
     

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