Would you feel safer...

The goalposts have always been where they are, you have just gone backwards. The illusion of them being moved

 

You really believe that government security officers are highly trained in safety and storage?...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46658874


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...r-loses-his-gun-outside-girlfriends-apartment

 

That's another false dichotomy by the way. People can and do break some laws while following others.

And criminals use the tools they feel they require weighed against the risk of being caught with them. Less armed populace means less criminals choosing to have and use guns. If somebody is going to rob you, and doesn't think you will be armed with a gun, he will probably come with a knife. If he thinks you will be armed with a gun, he will come with a gun, and may shoot before you see him coming, for his own safety.

Somebody above wrote that stabbings in the UK are up (they are still lower than in the USA per capita). The real question is are shootings up in the UK as well? The answer is no. They are down. And far far lower than in the USA per capita.

 

I have no doubt you believe your own fabrication hahaha

 

Except we aren't talking about mass shootings.

 

You do know you're contradicting yourself with this claim. IOW you're stating that the dichotomy is false, so its meaning is negated.

I saw a burglar kicking in his own front door, he must have been working from home.

How do you figure that? They'll need less ammo, as the firearm is already intimidating.

 

Oh, now we have to subtract mass shooting casualties from the overall numbers?... LMAO

 

You spelled fabrication wrong. It's spelt 'fact'.

 

Is gun violence up or down in Australia since the 1996 gun reforms?

Would what be the same case? Guns are highly restricted in Canada. Again, I will stay in Windsor, Ontario and out of Detroit Michigan, thanks.

 

Feel free to lie to yourself all you like.
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I especially love the one about Dem pols trying to starve babies

 

This is what's being debated.


1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.
1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.
1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.
1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.
1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.
1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.
1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

And yet Australia, UK, and others have gun bans and are not murdering their citizens.

 

A murderer doesn't care if he gets caught with a gun.

Stabbing murders are the highest on record. The overall murder rate is going down. That's not something to brag about.

The United States' overall murder numbers are going down. That IS something to brag about.

 

Oh, government murders of civilians is the only thing being debated in this thread?...lol

 

For my post it was.

 

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Its something for the US to brag about, but not the UK to brag about?

Murders in the UK switching from other means to knives (as overall murder rate declines) is irrelevant to gun control laws, unless of course you are arguing that gun control laws lead murderers to use less guns and more knives, and the murder rate declines accordingly? I wouldn't make that argument.

 

The number of total murders in the UK increased in 2022.

 

LMAO

 

You just wrote the opposite. So that was a typo?
How has the UK murder rate done in correlation with gun control measures there? Above we saw that in Australia gun violence dropped dramatically as gun control was tightened.

 

Where did I write the opposite?

 

Because women are inferior? Is that what you really think?

 

I guess you missed my post on this... (post #73)

Big Lie Busted: Australia’s Gun Violence is Real and Rising…

and here is an addition to it.

Gun violence in Australia, 2002–2016: a cohort study

Hmm, seems like it's working... not!

 

This poll only makes sense if it's just the government pushing full disarmament. But since here in the United States, it's driven by voters, not politicians, the idea that it's done for government control kind of loses substance. I mean, sure, that narrative is great for riling up voters and selling guns and ammo but it's not realistic or grounded. But these days Americans are as addicted to their narratives as they are to their cell phones.

 

I don't need to lie to you or myself. Your democratic party is doing just fine misleading the people gullible enough to accept their BS.

 

I quoted and bolded it for your convenience. I think maybe it was a typo?

 

You didn't answer my question. I asked about since 1996, when gun control measures were put in, not in isolated years or time periods where it went up despite gun control laws already being in place.