Would YOU let the 50 Orlando gays into heaven?

Too bad that Jesus isn't real or doesn't care about black people enough to have simply snapped his all-powerful/all-loving fingers and educated people that the book about him is immoral when it comes to, among many other things, owning another human being as personal property. Too bad he didn't condemn the OT enough for Christians to not bring forward the OT and it's approval of BEATING SLAVES TO DEATH (as long as the death drags out past about 48 hours.) Too bad.
Well, if it's any consolation to Christians, the Muslim god isn't real either, so you're not worse than the Muslims.

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That might explain the gay Orlando Jihadist doing what he did.

 

Repent or Perish

Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”

Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree growing in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it but did not find any. So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’

“ ‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’ ”

 

When you think about the guys getting herds of cute boys it seems the silliest BS of all time in any religious fairy tale. Cute muslim boys end up as sex slaves for randy old guys. The women remain virgins. The girls are nowhere to be seen. The dummies who came up with that story had some serious mental illnesses. But the story does say that they did like to kiss the boys. The Afghans go insane over them.

 

There is truth to this. I myself am amazed that so many people can believe so much bull(*)(*)(*)(*). But just look around - I mean, Kanye West, Justin Beiber, and Honey Boo Boo are ALL getting rich and famous off of mass stupidity; the problem goes way beyond religion. A LOT of people are just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded. Honestly the best you can expect is that they don't actively kill people (other than themselves, which I welcome).

 

If you have actually read the Bible, then why do you constantly misrepresent it? You don't have to believe it to understand it, you can believe its no more factual than the Lord of the Rings or the Nibelungenlead, but that does not prevent you from presenting it honestly and accurately. I don't remember one post of yours in which you quoted or explained any part accurately.

Besides, if its as flawed as you claim, then presenting it accurately is the best way to insure its downfall, no misrepresentation required. So why don't you present it accurately and let it fail on its own merits?

 

That's why the women remain virgins.

 

That's only because we do not know what the kingdom is like. To have a kingdom without sin, sorrow, pain, suffering, etc, must require a kingdom of strict law's. I think anybody could agree with that. And to worship any other God, shows one does not love the God of Israel or Jesus. Not loving our Father in heaven would be to have a son or daughter that does not love you. You as their creator and yet no love or respect from them. To enter the kingdom, one must love, know, and believe in Jesus. This gathers a crowd of the same liken, undivided. A house that is divided cannot stand.

 

One can only reach the Father through Jesus. Your words for a man that changed the entire world are pretty harsh. This is a man that most people in the world could tell you about, even if they are not believers. He is the most popular man, in mankind's history.

To get to the heavenly kingdom, one absolutely needs Jesus.

 

So that would have left, say, Eskimos in the 1600's completely out in the cold (no pun intended) when it comes to getting into "heaven" because of course they would mostly not have even heard about "Jesus".....so god/Jesus, relying on HUMANS to transmit their word, are being completely unfair in who gets into heaven and who doesn't. The Eskimo never heard of some ancient guy from a desert region half-way around the world, so of course he can't believe in him, so it's going to get much, much, much hotter for that Eskimo after he dies! That's patently unfair. Jesus is unfair. God is unfair. Christians are unfair believing in a scheme like that.

 

Yes, John 14:6 says that, you are correct. You know your stuff.

Keep in mind that MOHAMMAD is often considered either the #1 or #2 man in world history regarding his popularity or his influence on the world, so THAT'S NOT a very good barometer you're picking, my friend.

Keep in mind that people are often stupid - Jesus was stupid and and most people throughout history were stupid because they accepted slavery for many thousands of years - they were simply stupid and unloving to accept slavery. A caring person would know better. Jesus/god would not just conform to the norms of the time, obviously....if they cared for humanity, that is.
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/slavery/

 

It is obvious you have no understanding of the Bible. You have heard what people have to say on both sides, merely choosing a side, as opposed to reading yourself.

 

You sound just like what they say at KKK meetings...."the value the same liken, undivided."
"Heaven" is the most bigoted place ever.....no Eskimos, no Hindus, no Muslims, no atheists, no Bahai, no Buddhists, etc. You can do better than believe in bigotry, my friend. Open your heart and get rid of the hatred that god/Jesus has for people who don't think like he does.

 

I'm afraid that YOU are reading stuff into it that isn't there....for example, when "god" approves of slaughter, and slavery, and killing gays, I think that you'll somehow magically assert that god is not that way, that's this one unique "god" is not a moral abomination, which he obviously is. No amount of "love" in the texts can make up for the barbaric/savage atrocities approved of by the hero of the Bible - unless you think that we should rethink Hitler if, just say, we find a treasure-trove of, say, lost recordings where Hitler goes on and on saying one good thing after another (no, Hitler, like "god", would still be an abomination no matter how much "good" stuff he might have done, just say.)

And the problem is that YOU can't condemn his barbarity - he slaughtered 99.999999% all all innocent animals in his flood, but you can't say "yes" when asked, say, "would you have come up with a better way to achieve his goal rather than killing 99.999999% of all innocent animals?" You give that genocide (not to mention the genocide of 99.999999% of all HUMANITY in said "flood") as pass. You give genocide a pass. THAT'S what religion does to the mind - giving even genocide a pass. Incredible.

 

I'm constantly giving links to the Bible when I condemn it, so I'm doing that.

You seem to be under the overall belief that the Bible is good, and not evil like it clearly is if someone uses a rational/objective analysis, and not look at it with rose-colored glasses. There are "good" parts as well, to be sure, but they can't make up for the horrific parts. Jesus won't let Gandhi into "heaven", he's gonna see that Gandhi burns....sick, sick, sick.

 

Your a perfect example of those who ridicule and mock without any education on the matter.
Anybody that chooses to repent and ask forgiveness through Jesus Christ can be saved and the kingdom granted to them. Your list of who you think is unavailable, may still go to the Father through Jesus. They just have to want to go, and through actions prove that want.
You go on trusting man. I will trust God, and His will shall be done.

 

For anybody to believe that Jesus wants any harm or wrong doing towards anybody, is the exact opposite of the message He sent. He wants us to all love one another and to do so through Him.
To accept slavery is different than believing it's ok. To this day, if the powers that be want slavery, they will have it regardless of your personal feelings. Jesus knew this, so he told us if we are to be a slave, be the best slave.

 

Not if they haven't heard about "Jesus", they don't! So Jesus is patently unfair. If it was up to me in that position then I'd talk to each person (using my super-magic-Jesus skilz!), instead of just hoping that my minions (Christians) get to each and every person for all time. But Jesus doesn't do that....that's because he's either not real or not caring - either way he's obviously not worth worshipping, obviously.

 

So then please educate us as to where in the Bible it does say "ok, if you've never heard of Jesus it's totally cool, Jesus will still let them into heaven and avoid hell - because Jesus is such as stand up guy." Show us, jrr. If you can't, jrr, then we'll conclude that I'm right, and that you might want to re-think your entire view on being "saved" by "believing in Jesus". Surely a moral/fair "god" would have a clause like this in his book, no? I would, so why wouldn't "god" also?

 

So don't worship Him, it's obvious you don't. If one was never taught or has never heard the word of God, or taking out as a young child, they will automatically inherit the kingdom. God is of mercy and love. He understands every individuals particular situations and will judge accordingly.

You seem to have heard the word, or somebody has at the least planted the seed. Which leaves you without excuse.

 

Oh FFS!! "be the best slave"!! Yes, you are right the Bible does say that, but a sane book would believe like Modern Secular Humanism believes: don't let anyone enslave you, you're better than that!!
I can't believe what a moral coward Jesus was.

Perhaps Jesus' advice to the sex slave being raped by Mohammad's minions in this video, while they chuckle/joke while it's all going on, would be "be the best sex-slave that you can be!!" "Video ‘shows ISIS fighters laughing and joking while a woman is heard screaming as she is being raped nearby’" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oke-woman-raped-background.html#ixzz4DXxDgrwB

 

You go on trusting an immoral invisible man who approves of killing gays who lives in the sky, and I'll trust in reality.

 

So Christians should not tell people about Jesus then, to insure that they get to heaven!! Can we agree on that (that Christians should, because they love people and want to insure that they get to heaven, NOT tell people about Jesus....otherwise they largely risk NOT going to heaven because they heard about Jesus but, like the majority people, rejected Jesus)? Seems reasonable. What say you?

 

The god of the Bible killed the first-born, innocent, sons of Egypt....a sick, sick, sick individual. Babies.....toddlers....boys....sick, sick, sick. You couldn't BE more wrong about that. Are YOU creative enough to come up with a better, more compassionate solution, jrr? Such as coming down and talking to Pharoah, instead of slaughtering innocent children? Are you and your family creative enough to think of a better solution than that, jrr? I know my family is. What say you?

 

So I'll burn, burn, burn, while YOU bask in untold paradise......you seem to think that you're far far better than me, in the end. You might indeed be better than me in many ways, but clearly not THAT much better than me! You seem like a supremacist, it can be argued? Or at least your sense of fairness, your sense of proportion, are incredibly out of whack, no? You're like Muslims who can't remove the part of their book that says AMPUTATION is fair and just punishment for stealing. That's dangerous thinking.

 

I am not better than you, nor am I better than anybody. I just believe in Jesus Christ and that He is our only salvation. He is the only way to our Fathers kingdom. If you want to go there after your physical death, seek Jesus. Otherwise continue on, the choice is yours. Why would you claim that I think I'm better than you? Because I believe I'm going to Heaven and your not? You don't even believe in God so what's the problem?