Xi Jinping in Russia: China Will ‘Stand Guard over the World Order’

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  1. bigfella

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    He also claimed in November last year that Ukraine had suffered 250,000 deaths and 600,000 casualties - basically their entire army. Yet they still fight. Maybe if they listened to him they would realize that their army doesn't exist and give up. An intelligent person might conclude that Pedo boy is just pumping out BS for a pro-Putin audience.

    Fortunately 'the US' was listening when he tried to get someone whgo he believed was underage to have sex with him....twice. I don't know why Putin apologists are so attracted to liars, conmen, anti-semites and sexual predators, but you guys just seem to collect them.
     
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    Fair enough --- missed the time stamp .. other than that .. one should state better what it is they thought was wrong rather than just posting a link .-- I didn't go to the link .. but were I to go there .. I still don't know what I am looking for ..perhaps there was good evidence that NATO is going to attack .. I highly doubt it .. but that is not the point .. what evidence is presented in the vid that supports claim ( is what one should be citing) followed by why this is wrong.
     
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    Yet you seem to have no issue trusting a convicted paedophile. Curious. You also seem to have no trouble trusting people who either mindlessly repeat Russian propaganda or just flat out make stuff up. Scott Pedo & MacGregor have been claiming impending Russian victory for over a year, complete with bizarre made up stats etc. If you really 'read everything' you would know this, yet you zero in on people like this unfailingly while ignoring MUCH more credible analysts.

    In short, to all intents & purposes you don't have a clue what you are talking about, so you latch onto people who already support your worldview.

    If you really want some understanding of what is happening in Ukraine go away and watch every video on this channel. He draws widely from sources on all sides and even uses primary source material at times. He reads and critiques the official versions from both sides and compares them to other analysis. He is one of the best 'general' sources of information on the war. So, run along, do some proper research and get back to us when you are done.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3ehuUksTyQ7bbjGntmx3Q
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "An intelligent person" - understands that even if Ritter was a Pedophile- you would still be engaging in Ad Hom Fallacy - and that this pedophile has a whole lot more brains and integrity than you do .. "Ouch"

    Further .. "An intelligent person" would not be surprised when US intelligence services lie .. about an individual who has misbehaved .. not found WMD when he was ordered to .. not lied for the man.

    You haven't supported your 600 casualties claim -- feel free to do so.. try and work our way into some intelligent conversation :)
     
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    An INTELLIGENT person would have looked into what motivates Scott to say the **** he says. Maybe dive into his other predictions to see if those came through.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

    Like his predictions for the Iraq war for example:

    "The United States is going to leave Iraq with its tail between its legs, defeated. It is a war we can not win ... We do not have the military means to take over Baghdad and for this reason I believe the defeat of the United States in this war is inevitable ... Every time we confront Iraqi troops we may win some tactical battles, as we did for ten years in Vietnam, but we will not be able to win this war, which in my opinion is already lost," Ritter added."

    "He later became a critic of the Iraq War and United States foreign policy in the Middle East. During the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, he wrote a series of opinion pieces for Russian state media outlet RT."

    RT is like the CNN of Russia. Right on up with it's fake news bullshit. It's schtick is to be as pro Kremlin as possible. So someone writing an opinion piece for RT is sure as **** not going to be having any negative opinions articles or facts that work against Putin. And why?

    Because Russia is a ****ing AUTHORITARIAN governance. That's why. There is no freedom to question the government over there.

    So you see, if you are opposed to the United States and need someone to make hit pieces against the United States you call on good ole Scott Ritter. He makes his bread and butter giving **** analysis writing about the demise of the United States for about 20 years now.

    Oh...and he's a pedo.
     
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    Your first 2 sentences describes very well how other countries must try to negotiate with the federal government, but of course our claimed logic in the GWOT is that we're "delivering democracy". :lol:
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why you need to re-interate that Ad Hom Fallacy is for morons .. I do not know.. and his comments you posted on Iraq were true ? so what the freak are you talking about .. and why do you not have any clue what propaganda is .. not that RT has any bearing on the truth or falsehood of your comments to begin with.

    Just a huge fail .. that has Zero to do with Russia being Authoritarian .. like where Biden wants to take us.
     
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    Uhhh...pretty sure the United States occupied Iraq indefinitely. Including Baghdad. We destroyed Iraq. So no...Scott was woefully incorrect.

    I just detailed to you Scott's m.o.

    He has made his career preaching the downfall of the United States for the past 20 years. He currently makes MONEY posting bullshit Kremlin propaganda for Russian Times.

    And he's a pedo. (which means he's a real piece of **** human being)

    So ya...the only fail here is bringing up Scott like anything he says isn't completely tainted and unrealistic.
     
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    Just for shits and giggles I watched one of Scotty's earlier hits. This one was not long after the war started and while it's chalk full on falsehoods and claims...I noticed this slice of fried gold regarding Russia working with 3rd party militia like the Wagner group;



    12:59 "well first of all you you can judge let me give you an example by answering this way there's been a lot of propaganda that russia has brought in mercenaries uh the wagner group and that russia was going to bring in syrian fighters i can tell you with absolute certainty that the russian military which is one of the most professional militaries in the earth it doesn't mean they're infallible doesn't mean they can't make mistakes but they're professional their officer classes are some of the finest trained military professionals in the world they would never allow mercenaries to fight alongside their soldiers..."

    Ooopsee doodle!

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    So please. Tell me more about Scott Ritter.

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    There has gotta be a "All the times Scott Ritter got it wrong" website out there.
     
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