Yahweh and Allah. Are they moral and ethical Gods?

That is in fact the prescription we are given by these supposed moral beings. In the scope of eternity, our lives are infinitesimal, yet we are punished by fire for all eternity for actions that took place in that blip of time. What crime would warrant torture for all eternity? Do you vapid (*)(*)(*)(*)s even take the time to think of the scope eternity has versus your lifetime?

 

That happens every time someone is sent to hell by God as a punishment for their actions. Infinite punishments for finite crimes is immoral, no matter how you try to stretch it.

 

Unless of course the person committing immoral crimes would have continued committing them had he lived forever.

 

Many Christian holy men preached violence against Jews, Muslims, and other so-called "sinners".

 

So there is no such thing as free will and people are predestined to do things?

Did you seriously just apologize for punishing people for (*)(*)(*)(*) they might do in the future?

 

Ah, but I'm not doing any punishing. God is, and God knows.

 

If God knows, then free will doesn't exist and God is punishing people for things they have no control over.

 

Free will doesn't exist to a certain extent.
People ultimately make their choices, and get what they deserve. God is most just.

 

Oh yes, all eternity of having your skin scorched off then regrown and repeat. Most just indeed.

 

I've never been to nor seen hell, so I can't say what it's really like. Suffice to say that the afterlife is not like this one, and God is most merciful and just.

 

Oh indeed, for a being whose lifetime spans a blip in the eye of eternity, an eternity of the hell described is certainly most just and oh so merciful.

 

Then we will never make progress. It doesn't seem to me the realisations you mention take place very often, especially not in the depths of these threads.

 

Again, you assume that the after life is just like the present life, where things that we know of here are identical to what they are in hell/heaven.

It's suffice to say that everyone will get what they deserve, and no one will be wronged.

 

Infinite punishment for finite crimes is the single most unjust thing that could possibly exist.

 

You're just going in circles now.

 

No I am not. Name a single thing that could possibly be worse than infinite punishment for a finite crime?

You say one blasphemy about God in your life, you immediately afterword get hit by a bus. Your one second crime results in trillions upon trillions upon trillions of years of torture. How is that just?

 

Problem here is that you think it's all about punishment. No, it's about justice, about everyone getting what they truly deserve.

As to your scenario, God knows His creation better than anyone else. He is the most-forgiving, and most-wise. I don't understand why you can't just leave it at that.

 

Because it's no different than Kim Jong Un claiming he is most just and most wise while he puts people in concentration camps for questioning him.

Just because someone claims they are just and wise, does not mean they are. Their actions dictate that.

 

The OP makes a lot of threads attacking Jews.

I wonder why

 

Well, I guess you'll have to find out on Judgement Day whether the nature of Kim Jong is like that of God.

 

Or I could just read the books claiming to describe God.

Any God that is actually just and wise would not implement eternal punishment for temporal sins.

 

There you go again ... pretending to know stuff that you do not.

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"Judgement day" -- Good one ! Is that the day when believers in Islam will get thrown into the eternal fire ?

 

Here's a thought.

How can we judge how ethical a God is if in all reality we cant even come to an agreement on what a healthy ethical society is?

 

Why would it mater if everyone gets what he deserves?

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No, this is simply based on the attributes of God.

It's a day where everyone will be accounted for their deeds, yes.

 

Does a single second of sin deserve trillions of years of torture?