Yes, we can prove that god does not exist.

You claimed God doesn't exist because the bible is BS in the op. Now you're trying to say the bible doesn't describe God correctly. Stop moving the goal posts and just admit you lost the argument. You're making yourself look bad.

 

The following, from the OP, was my attempt to show that I was specifically talking about the god that's described in the Bible - there are many many OTHER gods of course, and I'm not talking about them:
"the god of the BIBLE doesn’t exist........."
"Ok, this does not mean that we can’t prove that some other “god” doesn’t exist, no, but it does prove that the specific all-knowing god of the BIBLE does not exist. So if you believe, specifically because of the BIBLE, that god exists, then realize we’ve proven that god does not exist.
But what is your opinion....have we shown that the god of the Bible doesn't exist?"


I'd like to hear your ideas of how I could have spelled that out better, so that I do better in the future, if you don't mind.
Thanks.

PS you'd make a good cop, or other enforcer of rules, as I can tell you have a lot of energy on following the rules (in this case the, say, "rules of honesty") being followed. We need people like you in this world.

 

Take another look at the thread title. You lost, just own it and move on.

 

That is the problem with all those new translations... they will be printed in the fashion that the translator desires. BTW: Who is the Lord that told you this?

 

He said he was your Lord.
Was he lying?

 

The TITLE should have had, but it would have made it a bit more unwieldy: "....specifically the god in the Bible..."
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What ego! There is no way to prove that God exists or not. Also, only fundamentalist Christians and atheists read the Bible as you have outlined above, or in other words, most of that is a strawman.

 

Without regard to the Bible (which I think is hokum), I don't think that you can either prove or disprove that God exists without first defining him. Got a definition? I don't.

 

"The Lord told me this:
"That is a distinction without a difference." " Those were your words and therefore you are claiming that the "Lord" told you something. Now who is that "Lord"?

If you desire to hang on to that perception, then I would have to say that he was telling you a lie, because my Lord would not provide two different understandings of what scripture is conveying. Are you also suggesting that you have the mind of Christ?

 

When YOU add up the genealogies, what do you come up with? (Hint: it's about 4000 years to Jesus, so science has proven the god of the Bible, that's described in the Bible - not other gods of course, as false.) The genealogies have nothing to do with "fundamentalist" readings of the Bible as such! I'm only talking about the specific god in the bible as described in the bible, not other gods.
Too bad he's not real, or he'd be smart enough to provide court-room level of evidence for his existence, that way many many more would likely not have to be sent to "hell" by the evil Christian god and his evil all-powerful son.

 

What created gravity?

 

The decay of the super force.

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No, you didn't start with that BS until I trashed your original argument.

 

I think the super force could probably kick the dark side's butt.

 

You did make a good distinction, that yes, you and other people as well didn't read the whole post, and came to the false conclusion that I was talking about all gods, despite me spelling it out numerous times in the body of the OP which particular super-friend I was talking about.

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Don't you know that the "theory of gravity", just like the "theory of evolution", is just a theory, so probably isn't real!!??

 

Except that I didn't come to submit h a conclusion. I even named Yahweh to make clear which God I was talking about. You didn't start going on about the bible being exclusive until your op crashed and burned.

 

What causes the "decay of the super force"?

 

Says who and by what authority?

 

Physics. Don't ask me for details, I'm not very fluent in particle physics even by laymen standards.

 

All the Christian fundamentalists say so, and they have god on their side, so they must be right!!!

Seeing how gravity is only a "theory", I'm going to make a ton of money by duplicating that walk that that French guy did in that new movie between the two world trade center towers....well, uh, because of Mohammad, there are no more world trade centers, but I would have done that!!

 

I wish I was still religious, because, like you, I don't currently understand much about particle physics either, but when I was religious I didn't need to understand much about this "sciency" stuff because I just left it up to god!! I just put myself in god's hands.

 

Sorry, but my digging for the axiom here requires more questions. What or who created physics?

The point is that if one asks enough regressive questions one will inexorably arrive at a place where one is forced to admit that they do not know the answer. Perhaps the above quote is you hitting that point. The lesson I see in this is that we cannot reasonably come to any solid conclusion for or against the existence of God as honestly we just do not know what created the big bang and sparked life nor do we have any clue as to what is yet to be discovered beyond the currently observable universe.

 

Obviously we didn't know what cuased the big bang... yet. None of this is relevant to my point in this thread.

 

Which is?

 

Disproving the bible as a science/history book and disproving God isn't the same thing.

 

"Only a theory" is the basis for everything you know,except the one thing,that you exist.

Rene Descartes realized he could not tell if he was real, or if everything was a figment of imagination, including himself.
But in that thought, he recognized that he was thinking.
That was real.
So his mind had to be real.

Here, he had the evidence that he existed and was real.

Then his senses detected evidence something which was not him, was sending him messages.
His eyes and ears, his senses received messages that some Reality other than himself also existed.
But to understand what this was required theories he had to make up, based upon only the evidence from his senses.

Everything, then, was part of his Theory of Reality.
And that remains the case today.