I watched the news interview two different individuals who caught covid, again, about four months later after having caught it back in March, or so.
Yep, lots of anecdotal info out there Also two different people are not that many and can easily be outliers.
Measles and chickenpox were far more virulent and deadly. When diseases have those characteristics, they are also more "simple" in our ability to find one life-time vaccine. They tend to be more stable and not mutate very quickly. The flu and the common cold, coronaviruses generally, are far more contagious, but also far less deadly. They mutate more often, usually becoming ever more contagious and ever less deadly through mutations. Currently 0.008% of the world's population has perished since January from Covid-19, if you trust all the published numbers. While the loss of those mostly-elderly lives is very sad, this does not appear to be a "terrifyingly" deadly virus.
Firstly, welcome to this forum; I think you'll like it here. I'm glad that your experience so far with Covid19 was not any worse than it was and that you do not have a recurrence. I don't think that enough is known about this virus and how it mutates to assume that everyone's experience would be as non debilitating as your experience was so I hope you will seriously consider the advice offered by @Distraff in Post #11 for everyone's sake. Because of the title of this thread, "You get sick and you get over it", some people might get the impression that your experience is the norm when their experience may be much worse.
I wonder if the folks that died or their family members would share your sentiments about their own experiences.
I'd also like to point out that those of us who see the inevitability that this virus is going to have to "wash over us" whether we like it or not, are not necessarily ignoring the advice of social distancing, wearing a mask, and hand-washing perhaps a bit more than "normal" good hygiene. The opinion about what will happen and the individual actions we are personally taking are two different things.
One of our values is that we very much care for our elderly because we are all going to be there one day. This is why we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on social security. We also pay hundreds of billions of their healthcare through government benefits and even our private insurance premiums. We have nursing homes everywhere which can be very expensive. So obviously, caring and protecting our elderly is a huge priority. Almost 150,000 people in the US have died from the coronavirus with many experts saying its probably higher because we are almost definitely undercounting. These deaths were mostly over 3 1/2 months and will be much higher after a year. If we had no lockdowns and let the virus spread freely, over a year we would have easily had 1-2 million deaths like the Trump administration projected. We have seen from New York and Italy what happens when the virus is allowed to get out of control. The result are overwhelmed hospitals that are running out of resources. While most people don't die from covid, many need hospitalization, so overwhelmed hospitals means many times more deaths. Even people with other illnesses will see huge spikes in deaths if hospitals are overwhelmed. So far, its mostly the young people getting infected, but if enough people are infected, even the elderly will see higher infections because its impossible to have zero contact with anyone else over a long time period. We are having good news from the vaccine front. But vaccines in development are notorious for eventually failing because they have deadly side effects that make them just as deadly for a small part of the population as the disease. Also, it may be found that it doesn't work for a big part of the population, immunity only lasts a few months, or the virus mutates which it has been proven to do. Its also going to take a while to produce enough vaccines for 7 billion people even after one is approved.
Yes and cancer deaths and CVD death families can say the same but in much larger numbers but Covid deaths are still much more tragic for some reason!
Can you point to where anyone said that those deaths were less tragic? But here's a flash...cancer is not contagious and family members are allowed to be with the patient as they lay dying. Not to mention that many cases of Covid were likely more avoidable than cancer!
I have many friends just like you. Funny that some of them got it bad and some not so bad, especially couples living together. I know 3 different sets where one of the pair got quite sick, but the partner nothing. Thanks for sharing your experience.
How does one avoid cancer? I watched my dad die of this who never took any chances you insensitive son of a bitch.
Most senior citizens will die from a Top-10 cause of death (minus suicides), and Covid will very likely be a Top-10 cause (along with Influenza), probably permanently....even after we get an annual vaccine. At the current rate, Covid is unlikely to be in the Top-3 causes of death though. It's likely to land somewhere in the middle this year with no vaccine, and drop further down on the list in future years after a vaccine (and natural mutations). Being "brand new", and being on the news everyday, having people forced out of work, making masking mandatory, and otherwise keeping Covid "top of mind" is what is scaring some people to near-frenzy. I agree with you that we don't want the hospital needs to exceed hospital capacity. That is the only thing which would unnaturally increase deaths. We have proven that we can slow the rate of infections down to control the hospitalization rates, but that is about the only control we have until their is some treatment or vaccine. Cirdellin's main point is that this is not an unprecedented cyclical battle between man and nature, and we can accept that fact or not. It's not the first pandemic and it won't be the last. @cirdellin can correct me if I'm wrong...don't want to put words into someone else's mouth.
From Dr. Fauci: “Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years. Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years. HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years. Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood. So far the symptoms may include: Fever Fatigue Coughing Pneumonia Chills/Trembling Acute respiratory distress Lung damage (potentially permanent) Loss of taste (a neurological symptom) Sore throat Headaches Difficulty breathing Mental confusion Diarrhea Nausea or vomiting Loss of appetite Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young) Swollen eyes Blood clots Seizures Liver damage Kidney damage Rash COVID toes (weird, right?) People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill. Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths. This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know. For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity: How dare you? How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died. How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as: Frequent hand-washing Physical distancing Reduced social/public contact or interaction Mask wearing Covering your cough or sneeze Avoiding touching your face Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term. I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance.”
I was sick and no longer am. I wish the same for you because hiding only delays the inevitable and is far less admirable!!
Get sick and get over it and live the only life you are ever going to have. Or be a ***** and hide. What woman could possibly respect that?
Did Dr. Fauci really say all of that, including the "How dare you?", or at some point in your post did you go off on your own moral crusade? Where's the line between what Fauci said and your feelings?
They are finding children with blood clots in most major organs, asymptotic individuals are showing severe internal scaring — we don’t know the possible long term effects and people saying “you get over it” are as dangerous as the virus.
