Part 13 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

By repeatedly quoting Lincoln you are constantly invoking the logical fallacy of "appeal to authority". You are proving nothing.

 

And if god can't die to save us, then there is no salvation, there is only parlor tricks and deceit.

 

The story of Esther, the Egyptians slaughtering of all Hebrew first born, the Amalekite war of ethnic cleansing against the Hebrews, the Babylonian captivity are all accounts of the struggle and history of the nation of Israel.
As far as the Israelite marching formation you forgot to mention that the Amalekites outnumbered the Israelite and are more well arm and seasoned soldiers they were the aggressors attacking the Israelite at every corner and at every chance they have picking on the weak and defenseless. The Israelite were afraid of the Amalekite many want to return to Egypt they prefer to live as slave than to be slaughtered by the Amalekite. The desperation of the Israelite were so concerning that they seek God for advice as to how they can survive against this evil threat and one of the huge difference between enemies of the Israelite killing their babies and God's instruction to wipe out the evil Amalekite people was that all the aggression and ethnic cleansing committed against the Israelite or Hebrew was that the Hebrews were all conquered people they were not the aggressor on the other hand the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Amalekite, Persians, Romans and the most recent one the Nazis they were the aggressor they have an open war policy to exterminate the Israelite even if the Israelite are not resisting or just want to live in peace with them.

In the story of Esther is clear prove of the ethnic cleansing wars against the Israelite;
Esther 3:5 When Haman saw that Mordecai would not kneel down or pay him honor, he was enraged.
6 Yet having learned who Mordecai’s people were, he scorned the idea of killing only Mordecai. Instead Haman looked for a way to destroy all Mordecai’s people, the Jews, throughout the whole kingdom of Xerxes.

7 In the twelfth year of King Xerxes, in the first month, the month of Nisan, the pur (that is, the lot) was cast in the presence of Haman to select a day and month. And the lot fell on[a] the twelfth month, the month of Adar.

8 Then Haman said to King Xerxes, “There is a certain people dispersed among the peoples in all the provinces of your kingdom who keep themselves separate. Their customs are different from those of all other people, and they do not obey the king’s laws; it is not in the king’s best interest to tolerate them.
9 If it pleases the king, let a decree be issued to destroy them, and I will give ten thousand talents of silver to the king’s administrators for the royal treasury.”

 

From the Holy Bible from the Gospel of Apostle Matthew and Luke.

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Man made dogma that were inspired from God not by man.

 

What kind of psycho would make people so that they inevitably will break his rules, and then
offer to "save; them, from himself! But only after he pays himself what he owes himself by killing himself.

Some crazy people making up stories like that, and what does it say of those who believe it?

 

and in your next post it'll be "god died"......this is just too ridiculous for words....

 

Again you're talking a load of rubbish. If you believe the Bible the Hebrews left Egypt with 600,000 men bearing arms. The Amalekites and all the other tribes of Canaan probably couldn't muster half that many combined. 2 centuries later Saul, with 210,000 men, slaughtered the Amalekites.

In the great battle between Egypt and the Hittite empire at Kadesh the Hittite army numbered around 20,000 men and the Egyptian army numbered between 23,000 and 50,000 men. This ended in more or less a stalemate and a treaty was signed between the two. Of course the Hebrews would not have been able to stand up against either of these. They were masters of chariot warfare and Israel had no chariots of any kind until much later.

As for Israel not being the aggressors, are you not familiar with the actions of David when he supposedly 'extended his kingdom'? The nations and city states he conquered?

Your Bible knowledge is sadly lacking. Sorry I should say your general knowledge is sadly lacking.

 

I am aware of the passages in the Bible, but if there were no witnesses where did the information come from. We have no indication that Jesus told anyone. Jesus prayed alone at one stage while the disciples slept, yet we still have the words he spoke.

 

You make a lot of claims with absolutely no proof and this is one. You are telling us that god can create the universe but he can't write a book without mans help. You really should stop trying to talk for this god as the more you say the sillier this god seems!

 

What is really sad is that ol' Mitt a Wan can't see this simple fact. They don't realize the more they talk about this god the sillier this god sounds.

 

A clear indication that it is simply a nice story... nothing more.

 

Or else they are dupes of the Dark One, doing as directed?

 

Proving that I am a Christian is not going to change the fact that you belong to a heretical cult nor will it change the fact that the Bible has errors.

Quit trying to dodge my post by changing the topic.

 

But your god did create it. He said so. He is a war god.
The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God?: Called “Lord of Armies” Over 280 Times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” Just Once
Yahweh is constantly represented as a war-god. He it is who marches at the head of Israel’s armies (Deut. 33:27);
That's just one instance.

Do you think that just maybe all these reference to good and evil may be describing as aspect of basic physics? i.e. Polarity

And that there is no humanoid form of god?

 

Since you can't present a quote of mine verifying that I said, "The Bible is 100% inerrant literal word of God" I/we can conclude you lied about it or as usual you misinterpreted what I actually said in a previous post.

So which is it? Did you deliberately lie or did you misinterpret what I actually said in a previous post? (which is a common habit of yours)

In regards to your question, what do you mean by, "So now you're saying parts are to be interpreted" You're not making sense...as usual...lol

Lastly, responding to your last question, yes, it is I who interpret Scripture correctly, remember I'm the practicing true Christian here and you're the agnostic who doesn't know anything about Christianity.

So you will misinterpret Scripture, you will interpret it the way it makes you feel/believe that you have discredited the Bible but this of course is a falsehood since your interpretation is wrong.

 

We have finally found the TRUE SCOTSMAN!!!!
LOL!!!!

 

Sorry, but you're wrong. Refer back to my post again and read it very carefully again, perhaps this time you will understand it and accept it.

We Christians all know that God did not create evil...in other words He did not bring evil into this world. Genesis explains how evil came into the world...it has something to do with disobedience.

If God created evil then how could He be holy and without sin? And why would He punish sin? He would be contradicting His very nature.

God does not contradict Himself, that is not His nature, thus He did not create evil. Evil is a consequence of having free will that He gave to each and everyone of us. It is by our free will choices that evil exists.

 

Sorry. You are the one who interprets wrong. You even see what is written, directly, and then misinterpret to fit your belief.
You have been called out by many for your wrong interpretations. But you are free to misinterpret all you want. Just remember, if you lead folks astray, I think God has a special place for those. And it won't be paradise.

you are falling more than a year behind in these thread.
You have stated the bible is inerrant.
You have stated it is fully inspired by God.
You have stated you take the bible literally.
If you have to interpret words and meanings, then you are not taking it as inerrant, as you will make mistakes. Which is quite obvious.
You have stated you are interpreting from a version that is out of print. And even stated it is out of print due to errors.

 

Should you not have quoted the Website from which you got your explanation, again

Has anyone ever thought of the Eastern religions which include the Hebrew religion. Many of them accept the necessity of the balance between good and evil (dualism). Yin and Yang. Dualism in India - Shiva-Shakti - unformed and formed and other forms of opposites. All necessary to give balance.
The Bible had God - good, and Satan - evil. Creator and destroyer. Inextricably joined but opposites.

 

You have nothing to say about the rest of my post?

According to his own word your god is a sadistic, barbaric killer.

Why would the words of your perfect god have to be "interpreted"?
Exactly how do you know that you have interpreted them correctly?

Your interpretation always seems to be such as to excuse this war god Yahweh of his bad behavior. In today's world he would be convicted of war crimes.

 

By the way the Hebrew scriptures use the word evil - ra'a (verb) in Isaiah 45:7

 

God didn't give us His blueprint detailing the mechanical process of allowing Noah to live a long life. In Noah's day it was the normal lifespan for humans to live for hundreds of years.

So it is us who are really not living the normal lifespan that people of Noah's day enjoyed. The reason is of course attributed to the destructive power of sin.

No, I never do ask that question simply because the Bible doesn't contradict itself. To say the Bible contradicts itself is to say God contradicts Himself.

We Christians know that isn't true for God does not ever contradict Himself, thus the Bible doesn't contradict itself since it is the infallible Word of God.

 

Hey, Mitt, since you are Wanren's "representative" do you believe that god is dead, god can't die, god is dead , god can't die??

 

I'm sure this will get ignored for a year, but, if God is omniscient, then God knew when God gave free will, man and some of the angels would sin, before he ever created them. And he created us still knowing sin and evil would happen.
You can claim he didn't create evil, but he created the very beings he knew would do evil.

 

How can you claim that? You don't know when Noah even lived. I am quite certain there weren't folks in south america, north america and the other continents of the world where anyone lived 950 yrs.
Some one said it best, they used a different numbering system. Base 60 instead of base 10, or something similar.