Flood myth or biblical fact: Should believers swallow the Noah story?

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  1. publican

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    You said you were forced to listen to horrible things. Does that sound like harassment per your own definition or not.

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    You said you were forced to listen to horrible things. Does that sound like harassment per your own definition or not.
     
  2. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm,...'"advertise" would be a better word.

    Harassment against Gayness, out in the open, that is the driving force behind the advertisement they get as they protest across the whole nation without spending one dime!
     
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    I've answered this several times. Is this another situation where there is a magic number? NO! They did not intentionally cause night terrors, so they don't meet my definition. They weren't hostile, so they don't meet yours. The WBC, on the other hand, is both hostile and they intentional cause distress.
     
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    Why do you keep dodging your words...............forced to listen to horrible things
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    These are the seven different kinds of governments, all of which arrest, prosecute, and other kill people trying to destroy them as the political system a nation uses.
    How else can they exist if they do not oppose rebels, revolutionaries, treasonous people,traitors, heretics, etc???
     
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    Yes, forced.. children are expected to be quiet and attentive in Sunday school and many Christian denominations are not amenable to questions.
     
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    So he was persecuted by who then? Who forced him? I mean if you want to speak for everyone here, tell us. Who forced him to listen to horrible things?
     
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    Communists say that the Democracy of America murdered the Rosenbergers, ignoring that they were committing treason.

    The western world was a Theocracy, a form f government.
    Theocracies are one of the seven ways a nation can be governed
    Even single government will prosecute and even kill rebels or heretic, or traitors, etc.

    Go to Iran and start collect Christians into churches and you will see Theocracies arrest you.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You asked a question and did not like the answer but know the answer is correct and you have no refutation so now you are crying boo hoo and going into demonization and straw man mode.

    Like I did not know that was coming. :applause:

    The founders did not condone forcing religious beliefs on others and nor do the majority of Americans.

    The Majority of Americans favor some form of legalized abortion and that demographic gets bigger every year so Boo Hoo on YOU !! :oldman:
     
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    Relax bubba. You hate Christians, you hate what they say and think. Chew on someone else leg. You guys are a dime a dozen.
     
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    You sure are FOS You have never set foot in Iran, have you?

    The main Christian churches in Iran are:

    Armenian Apostolic Church of Iran (between 110,000,[4] 250,000, and 300,000 adherents)

    Assyrian Church of the East of Iran (about 11,000 - 20,000 adherents),
    Chaldean Catholic Church of Iran (about 7,000 Assyrian adherents)

    Persian Apostolic Church of the East

    various other denominations, some examples are: Presbyterian, including the Assyrian Evangelical Church

    Pentecostal, including the Assyrian Pentecostal Church
    Jama'at-e Rabbani (the Iranian Assemblies of God churches)
    and the Anglican Diocese of Iran.


    According to Operation World, there are between 7,000 and 15,000 members and adherents of the various Protestant, Evangelical and other minority churches in Iran, though these numbers are particularly difficult to verify under the current political circumstances.

    The International Religious Freedom Report 2004 by the U.S. State Department quotes a somewhat higher total number of 300,000 Christians in Iran, and states the majority of whom are ethnic Armenians followed by ethnic Assyrians.[9]

    The "Country Information and Guidance: Christians and Christian Converts, Iran" report published on December 2014 by the Home Office of the United Kingdom states there are 370,000 Christians in Iran.
     
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    So what is your argument here ? That because Islam and other forms of Government persecute people that it is ok for Christianity to do it ?
     
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    How's your no go zones doing? Are your unarmed cops still running from Muslim protesters? Now that's comedy.
     
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    Ok,..
    You made your point here with Yardmeat, I think.
    He seems like a nice enough guy,though.

    What are your complaints about understanding Noah's "ark" as a box which held the thoughts about life on earth and the ideas about the animals which lived with him after the 40,000 year extinction ended?


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    Now I understand this is different than what you understood and have concluded as your idea of the story.
    But your idea probably does not compare with science info, right?
    This explanation does.

    It just means that the Bible wrote as a parable here, because before now, readers would not understand the facts of evolution.
     
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    LOLOL.. You do come up with some wild stuff.. Have you explained Noah's Ark as the central nervous system to any congregation???
     
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    Can't handle the truth and can do nothing other than demonize the messenger.

    It is not my fault that Christianity has a history of killing and torturing those who do not conform ?!

    Fortunately the founders wanted something different for the "we the people" of the USA. They were well aware of the horrors when church and state mixed and Christianity was allowed to force its beliefs into law.

    Perhaps you wish to go back to a theocracy and you are welcome to this belief. One of the great things about this country is that you are still free to have and even profess most any beliefs you like.
     
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    My argument is that governments ALWAYS have laws against destroying government.

    If governments did not have laws against rebels, they would all be torn down.
    Theocracies all stop heretics who want to not follow the law of the Theocracy.

    Democracies do the same.
    Kingdoms do the same.
    Dictators are well known for doing the same.
    They ALL do the same in order to exist.

    Don't they...?
     
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    LOL

    Go and start a new one by gathering muslims and telling them about the Trinity being Truth which is the image of Reality.
    See if Theocracies will arrest you.
     
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    But you stopped the thread to fight with one another here.
    What about the "flood" out of Africa 40 millennia ago?

    What about the three breeds of humans we all came from, the genetic roots of modern man which took place 40,000 years ago?
    That is the thread here.
     
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    There have been lots and lots of human migrations.. including out of Africa to the Arabian Peninsula 130,000 years ago, but there is NO evidence for any massive human extinction.
     
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    The Westboro Church needs every church in America do react exactly like the Gays and the marching Feminists Rights acted to change the culture to hurt our kids.
    What else works?
    Gangs blocking the streets, marching, protesting, made Gay Marriage and Abortions as acceptable as illegitimacies and 50% of the families on Welfare.
     
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    Ignore it. Nothing was stopped. Don't whine. :roll:
     
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    My words say that intention is necessary in order for it to be persecution. No one intentionally traumatized me. Why are you so desperate to claim that I was persecuted?
     
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    So who forced you to watch and read horrible things?
     
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    You are the only one who claims that I was persecuted.
     
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