Flood myth or biblical fact: Should believers swallow the Noah story?

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  1. publican

    publican Banned

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    So you think Christian thuggery is okay?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    My grandparents and my mother.
     
  3. publican

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    What do you call being 'forced to read horrible things'?

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    So they persecuted you, not the church. Now go back and retract everything you said about SBC in this regard. You blamed them! You lied.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because you have no material to refute facts presented is no reason to name call.

    This behavior is indeed something that infects this nation.
     
  5. yardmeat

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    I call it being forced to read horrible things. I don't call it persecution, for reasons given half a dozen times or so at this point.

    No one persecuted me.

    You do realize that churches are made up people, correct? My grandparents in my mother were part of the church leadership.
     
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    Then why bring it up when I asked you how you were persecuted? Was being 'forced to listen to horrible things' a positive? Say do.

    See above^^^^^^^^^

    So the SBC made your mom and grandparents harass you? Get real and stop dancing.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm not convinced that authoritarian regimes of any stripe deserve to exist in the first place.
     
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    Ok,...
    But can yardmeat get a word back to me here, too?

    I asked him days ago if "three racial breeds" was an acceptable idea, instead if three races Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid.

    My case for seeing the flood story as a factual account about what happened as modern man came to exist was based upon:

    1) Genetic evidence proves man, by an Act-of-God, was evolved by a mutation which fused two of the 24 chromosome ape mother.

    2) Then 22 "kinds" of humans are kisted in Genesis genealogy that correspond with the 22 names in the now extinct human species.

    3) Then evidence shows that Noah had three breeds of sons 100 millennia before the great "flood out-of-Africa"

    4) Then 40 millennia ago, these three breeds flooded the whole world, even up the mountains, while Neanderthals disappeared forever.

    5) The genetic evidence supports this idea, that all people alive today are related to just one man who lived 40-60 thousand years ago.

    6) Mitochondria genetics support the all people alive also had a common mother 150,000 years ago, as Gen 5:31 agrees.

    7) The three breeds of sons compares well with the theories of breeding or racial identifications, and that further supports the story.

    8) There is a box around the heads of Modern Homo sapiens which contains all the thoughts about the animals and the world as we know it.
    This box was the idea of an Ark.


    This list of corresponding facts and biblical ideas l be coincidental but they were offered to us as explanation for what actually happened.
    coincidence is pretty far fetched when the details are reinforced by Genetics, and Anthropology, Paleontology, and Scripture all agreeing here.
     
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    The Church does the same thing. Have you never heard of Sunday School ?
     
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    And they force you to go there?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep making claims with nothing to back those claims up.

    Do you not have anything other than unsupported claims and name calling ?
     
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    I didn't see yardmeat say anything at all about persecution... Why would you invent that claim?
     
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    I was and so most of the other kids who were there. Boring stuff that Sunday School.
     
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    We already resolved this interloper. He fessed up. Go play with someone else. You lost.
     
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    Hmmm,...
    Anarchy is all that is left.

    The problem of Anarchy is always the same.
    Gangs form.
    One gang soon threatens another because they all have territories.

    The other 6 types of governments ALL arose because the fights would not stop.
    Without a military by grouping together, it was just your gang against my gang, like in the inner cities today.
     
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    So who made you go there?
     
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    Straw men, demonization and name calling are this one's modus operandi.
     
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    Yet another lie. I brought these things up when you said: "You seem very skeered of imaginary enemies. No one here has tried to make you do anything. And I doubt anyone outside of this forum has either." I did not bring these things up when you asked how I was persecuted.

    No, it was not.

    My mother and my grandparents were part of the SBC. How is this a difficult concept? And yes, they forced me to listen to these things because the SBC taught that it was necessary for my salvation.
     
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    Who defines such regimes and by what yardstick?
     
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    Who do you think ? Jesus ?
     
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    I enjoyed Sunday school and choir, but not until I got over the inerrancy crap.

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    I enjoyed Sunday school and choir, but not until I got over the inerrancy crap.
     
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    No one deserves violence for their word and their beliefs. No one deserves to be persecuted for their thoughts. If that makes me an anarchist, than I'm an anarchist.
     
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    You tell me. You claim that Christianity is being forced upon you yet you will not say who is doing it.
     
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    You asked me if I was forced to go to Sunday School. The answer is yes. It was my Parents obviously.
     
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    Reason is a good start. But the difficulty of the definition does not change the accuracy of the condemnation. It can be difficult to define racism as well, but racism is still deplorable.
     
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