Killing Babies no Different from Abortion, Experts Say

They way liberals view women as sexual objects to deposit their seeds and then send them off
to the abortionist is very patriarchal and abusive. Liberal men need to take responsibility as
well and start treating women with respect.

 

YES, "They" do because MINORS have sex...

Another round of horse puckey....You have NO PROOF as usual that liberal men send women off to have an abortion...how utterly asinine....

Liberal men DO treat women with respect when they do NOT try to train them, change them, CONTROL them, or force pregnancy on them ....OR denigrate them when they DO make their own decisions..

Can't say the same for Conservative(REgressives)

 

Because it's not right.

The abortion deaths are not even required to be reported to the CDC.

How do we know that if it is not reported to the CDC?

Attack the messenger.

No. I mean if you have low expectations of people, they will meet and even exceed them.

Well let's just kill them all so all their suffering can end.

Which proves my point that we need to teach people to be more responsible and have higher expectations of them.

Unplanned pregnancies are symptomatic of bad choices.

What I'm saying is that single parenthood should not be encouraged. Fathers need to step up or
also be held responsible as well.

Once again, an unplanned pregnancy demonstrates a lack of control. A planned pregnancy demonstrates
a woman who is in control of her own body.

I think it equally appalling that you think the government should engage in regulating the termination
of it's own future citizens.

Pro-choice organizations means greedy people who make a living off of providing abortions. They don't
want to see the rate of abortions go down, they want it to go up so they can make more money.

I'm intentionally ignoring your cute acronyms intended to demonize state laws which are perfectly reasonable
and have been in effect both before and after Roe v Wade.

I can think of no worse subjugation or abuse of a woman than to deny her future unborn children life.

Why don't you direct your attention to the born instead of abortion?

 

Birth control in schools is not offered everywhere, just as comprehensive sex ed is not offered everywhere.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Teen-Sex-Ed.html

TEENS' REPORTS OF FORMAL SEX EDUCATION

• In 2006–2008, most teens aged 15–19 had received formal instruction about STIs (93%), HIV (89%) or abstinence (84%). However, about one-third of teens had not received any formal instruction about contraception; fewer males received this instruction than females (62% vs. 70%).[11]
• Many sexually experienced teens (46% of males and 33% of females) do not receive formal instruction about contraception before they first have sex.[12]
• About one in four adolescents aged 15-19 (23% of females and 28% of males) received abstinence education without receiving any instruction about birth control in 2006–2008[12], compared with 8–9% in 1995.[13]
• Among teens aged 18–19, 41% report that they know little or nothing about condoms and 75% say they know little or nothing about the contraceptive pill.[14]

 

Who is more likely to be abusive towards women, a gang banger rap artist or a Phil Robertson?
Bill Clinton, or Rick Santorum?

Liberal men tend to be the bad boy, the popular person, heavy party-ers, alchoholics and drug addicts.

Conservative men tend to go to church more often and refrain from excess.

 

In California we have been giving sex education to 6th graders and high schoolers since the
1960's and yet we have 30% of the welfare cases in the nation.

 

According to what authority, you? The study I linked to is a non-biased one.

The CDC has reporting areas that are required to report. That information is used by researchers in a scientific process to find the totals. It's scientific and accurate.

See above.

lol, you would never do that, right? Byron Calhoun is affiliated with a pro-life group. His findings have been analyzed and found to be flawed. Read the link.

Childbirth does not produce responsible parents. There is ample evidence of that.

Do you mean, kill them by cutting off food stamps and healthcare?

That's what comprehensive sex education and freely available birth control does. Your side is vehemently against it.

Sorry, you don't get to make women's sex and reproductive choices just because you think you know what's best for everyone.

Thanks for clarifying because it sounded like you meant unwed mothers should be judged and scorned.

There are plenty of reasons women have unplanned pregnancies. You are blaming and demonizing women.

You couldn't be more wrong. The government should stay out of women's reproductive decisions altogether, like Canada does(which has a lower abortion rate than the US).

You don't know what you are talking about. Planned Parenthood is a non-profit organization. Any gynecologist who performs abortions would make much more money delivering babies.

No, they are intended to harass women and delay or prevent access to abortion. Many of them are unconstitutional and are harmful to women's health.

Who does that? No one denies a woman her "future unborn children life." SHE makes her own decision according to what she alone knows about her own limitations.

That's what I do. Born women need abortion healthcare.

 

""""""Conservative men tend to go to church more often and refrain from excess""""""





Oh Please...(gasping for air after reading the above) .do you really think no one knows or hears the news ?


AND YOU DID NOT ADDRESS the post of mine you quoted:

""""Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

Another round of horse puckey....You have NO PROOF as usual that liberal men send women off to have an abortion...how utterly asinine....

Liberal men DO treat women with respect when they do NOT try to train them, change them, CONTROL them, or force pregnancy on them ....OR denigrate them when they DO make their own decisions..



Can't say the same for Conservative(REgressives)

 

Nah you are just playing your Nazi agenda of controlling specific groups.

 

Only an ad hom attack if it is not true, so far everything I have said is true.

Is that question aimed at yourself?

It was your assertion that a lack of chromosomes means they are not a human being, not mine.

 

You have explained nothing and your contradictory statement makes as much sense as everything else you write ie no sense at all.

anyone and everyone, even you do it.

Except for the fact you are ignorant.

Just to highlight your irrelevance to the issues.

When or IF you ever become a person with authority I might listen to you until then I'll post when, where and how I want.

I have far more idea of the subject matter than you ever will and that is perfectly clear from your inane comments.

 

you get more irrelevant and ignorant with every post

In other words you cannot without showing your own hypocrisy and so attempt to evade.

Which graph, having looked through the whole thread I see no relevant graph.

 

For all your blather and nay-saying, you are and always will be in the wrong because your side
represents evil and death. As long as there is evil in the world there will always be people
fighting against it. Your pretense to care about children's food stamps and healthcare is betrayed
by you willingness to end life in the womb. Excuses made for irresponsible behavior ring hollow.
You elevate unwed mothers who should be scorned. I blame and demonize male and female
who fornicate without taking basic contraceptive precautions. This is the 21st Century not the
1930's. You claim you want government out of women's reproductive decisions then use the
force of government to impose healthcare on every American including the costs of government
mandated "reproductive decisions" via regulations imposed on businesses, and via the welfare
payed for by stealing money from hard working taxpayers.

Your system is nothing more than an endorsement of graft, greed and corruption. It is to support
decadence and licentiousness. There is no redeeming qualities in the positions of the left.

 

I did respond to your post. I won't do it twice.

 

You'll have to first apologize if you want me to explain myself thrice.

I am no more interested in any exchange with you. Ironically, you accuse me of ignorance when I've
explained something to you twice, yet you still claim ignorance for your own self.

 

[/responsetodeletedpost] I refuse to respond to insults.

 

now why would I apologise to someone who knows little to nothing about the issues. You post nothing but opinions, usually wrong opinions with no relevant facts or evidence to back them up .. learn how to debate and then you may actually go from being ignorant to being relevant.

Here this might help - "Every complete argument consists of three components, CLAIM, WARRANTS AND PROOF.
First, a CLAIM is the specific point being made.
Second, WARRANTS are the reasons for the claim. A claim without WARRANTS, or reasons, is not much of a claim.
Finally, proof or evidence is used to validate, or prove an argument and comes in the form of “cards,” or quotations from published authorities “qualified” to render opinions or otherwise validate the claim or warrants. "

You are ignorant, you don't even have the first idea of how to actually debate and you have explaining nothing, only offered your unsubstantiated opinion.

- - - Updated - - -

ie. you have no relevant responses due to ignorance.

 

540.6 Million may be miniscule to you, but not to me
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bar...od-got-5406-million-government-grants-fy-2013

The quote I listed cited Black and Hispanic. (I guess Goebbels grand abortion solution for Blacks is working.)

Yes its the minority, and I believe that you are right that women should want the pregnancy at this time. Maybe this means you aren't OK with having to pay for over 1000 of these type of abortions a year?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy

 

I thought you said you didn't go to church and didn't pray.

 

Once again, the federal government does not fund abortions except for medicaid abortions for rape, incest, and life of the woman. The Hyde Amendment expressly forbids it. Planned Parenthood gets government funding for birth control education and distribution, and health services for women AND men. Government funds are carefully accounted for as PP has been audited numerous times.

Blacks and Hispanics have as much right to choose abortion as anyone else.

Government is not paying.

 

Wow, that is one big white flag you are waving there! You will never admit it, but just to reiterate, here's why you are wrong:

You are not fighting against "evil and death." Pro-lifers have vehemently rejected the only policies that are proven to reduce abortions, so you aren't saving any lives, and actually causing more abortions.

OTOH, If you don't care about actual lives of living breathing children, how can you claim to care about "life in the womb?"

Those are YOUR excuses to rob women of their reproductive rights, bodily autonomy, self-determination and dignity.

Right, this is not the 1930's and normal people don't scorn and judge unwed women anymore. Other people's sex lives are not your business. Why do you have the need to judge?

If you were truly prolife, you would support healthcare for everyone. You would want tax dollars to go for healthcare instead of perpetual war. If you really thought abortion was murder, you would support mandated birth control insurance. (Businesses don't provide that free gratis, it's a part of workers' compensation packages, and they earn it)

Obamacare reduces abortions, but you are opposed it! That says it all:

http://sourcefed.com/new-study-says-obamacare-lowers-abortion-rate/

Such a sad, hate-filled and deluded diatribe. This is what your system does to you.

 

According to abortion supporter logic, they have even more right than everyone else.

I am referring of course to the whole "what are we going to do with all those unwanted babies?" argument.

 

HOW do blacks and Hispanics have MORE rights???



WHAT "what are we going to do with all those unwanted babies?" argument?

 

Some, and it is decreasing abortion rates. Needs to expand.

 

How do you know? Where is the proof that it decreases abortion rates?

They still perform hundreds of thousands nearly a million abortions every year. Maybe more.

If we abolish abortions, the rate will decrease immediately in my opinion.