Killing Babies no Different from Abortion, Experts Say

talk about over reach
you decide to smear the entire left with a partial rendition of the views of a single individual born in 1879

btw, what ever else is true about her views on eugenics

wiki says

In contrast with eugenicist William Robinson, who advocated euthanasia for the unfit,[note 9] Sanger wrote, "we [do not] believe that the community could or should send to the lethal chamber the defective progeny resulting from irresponsible and unintelligent breeding."[93] Similarly, Sanger denounced the aggressive and lethal Nazi eugenics program.[88] In addition, Sanger believed the responsibility for birth control should remain in the hands of able-minded individual parents rather than the state, and that self-determining motherhood was the only unshakable foundation for racial betterment.[90][94]

pSanger's eugenic policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods and full family planning autonomy for the able-minded, and compulsory segregation or sterilization for the profoundly retarded.[87][88] In her book The Pivot of Civilization, she advocated coercion to prevent the "undeniably feeble-minded" from procreating.[89]

 

I think that abortion is much less healthy that those who advocate for it would like you to believe.

There's a big grey area between an accident and an act of irresponsibility.

That's my point. An abortion is not dignified and demonstrates a lack of control over one's own body.

And there is nobody who defends women against the bullies that pressure or force her to have an abortion.

It is not even a subject for the women's rights advocates who pretend to be advocates for women's rights.

I don't know that it is God's will. I don't advocate for banning abortions on His behalf. I advocate for it
because it is best to error on the side of life. I advocate for it for the sake of decency. I advocate for it
because it is right morally, ethically and scientifically.

 

So because of the story of the great flood in the bible, you claim the right to play God because the scale is a fraction of
what God is capable of?

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No. You are right on the former, wrong on the latter.

 

she died before roe v wade

 

In 1926, Sanger gave a lecture on birth control to the women's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan in Silver Lake, New Jersey.[47] She described it as "one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing,"


clearly she was simply trying to spread he message to ALL women, not expressing a view on the KKK

 

No, you are wrong. She was opposed to abortion, like you.

 

for this matter, i refer you to an unimpeachable source

http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/23/what-did-margaret-sanger-think-about-abortion/

 

Posting all the proof, facts, complete quotes and context will never convince the ignorant, they cling to their little bumper sticker slogans because , really, anything deeper will boggle them...

 

Abortion is 14 times safer than childbirth.

And you want "irresponsible women" to be forced to be mothers?

The decision to have an abortion is taking control of one's body and life; that is dignity. Before abortion was legal, unwed pregnant girls were the subject of scorn and judgment. They were not allowed their dignity, and that is what you want to bring back.

Every woman who has an abortion suffers the humiliation and bullying effect of TRAP laws. Who do you think bullies women to have an abortion?

The only thing women's rights advocates want is for the choice to belong to the woman.

How convenient for those who want to preserve patriarchy.

It is morally wrong to force women to suffer 9 months of pregnancy, childbirth, and damage to their bodies, and deny them their autonomy, self determination, and their dignity. How can you think you have that right?

 

Rather than cloud the waters with a bunch of name calling, why not start with the sensible steps that we can all agree on:
(1) Stop public funding of abortions. The federal deficit is big enough already. Why not start with cutting funding of stuff the majority of Americans don't approve of.

(2) Stop putting free abortion clinics by every Black and Hispanic population center. (At best it just reeks of racism.) http://www.lifenews.com/2012/10/16/...ood-abortion-clinics-target-blacks-hispanics/

(3) End late term abortions. If the baby can live on it's own outside the womb, it has as much right to live as anyone else.

 

Where do people get the idea that abortions are federally funded? The Hyde Amendment prohibits it. The only federally funded abortions are for Medicaid patients, and only in cases of rape, incest, and life of the woman. It is a miniscule amount.

Factcheck.org says false:

When a woman carries a pregnancy to viability, it's because it's a wanted pregnancy. If possible, the doctor would induce birth rather than abort.

 

Women can change their mind, don't you agree?

Why, Cady? Didn't you say it was easier for the woman to have her uterus sucked out through a little opening than have her cervix stretched open all the way?

 

After viability? I can't imagine a that woman would want a purely elective abortion knowing the fetus was viable. Even if she did, no reputable provider would do it.

I'm quite sure I've never said anything like that.

 

NO, she never said that............

Do you still beat our wife?

 

READ the post above yours here....and look up every word for verification.....and you will see that on all three points YOU are WRONG.

 

Thank god progressive parents proudly abort their own children. Maybe your philosophy will die out with your pride of murder.

 

I don't know where that statistic comes from, but I would take issue with it.

Since I've already shown that 0.015% of women in the United States die during childbirth. That is 15 per 100,000.

That would mean that only one woman dies per 100,000 from abortion in the US. Unfortunately, and for obvious
political reasons, those statistics are not kept or reported.

According to one study:

And according to this one:

No. They could opt for adoption. But women would be more responsible if we only held them responsible.
The burden of raising a child tends to make parents more responsible.

Yet another useless euphemism and platitude. An unplanned pregnancy is a sign of a person
who doesn't have any control over "one's body and life". What part of an abortion procedure do
you think is dignified? If a woman decides to give birth, is she not also taking control of her
body? Unwed mothers should not be made objects of admiration either. Children deserve to
grow up in a two parent stable household.

Is forced abortions any more dignified? Do you think all women get abortions because they want to
of they're own free will? How many are pressured by their friends and families, boyfriends, husbands,
teachers or social workers? Perhaps they are pressured by counselors at the local abortion advocacy
group or a Planned Parenthood "healthcare" facility. Speaking of being treated like a child, how many
under aged teens do you think are bullied into getting abortions? Probably easier to count the number
who aren't bullied or subjected to peer pressure.

But is that always the case? Like I said, do women's rights advocates ever speak out for women who
are bullied into getting abortions?

Who wants to preserve patriarchy?

Is it not morally wrong to stand by and allow the injustice being done to the unborn?

 

"The death of a woman during pregnancy, at delivery, or soon after delivery is a tragedy for her family and for society as a whole. Sadly, about 650 women die each year in the United States as a result of pregnancy or delivery complications. "
http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/pregnancy-relatedmortality.htm

"• The risk of death associated with abortion increases with the length of pregnancy, from one death for every one million abortions at or before eight weeks to one per 29,000 at 16–20 weeks—and one per 11,000 at 21 weeks or later."
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

 

And that makes her a leftist how?

 

So I can assume you support both control for minors and sex education in schools as a way to reduce unwanted pregnancies. Now if all the groups that oppose abortion would do the same the need for abortions could be seriously reduced.

 

If you'd ever pull your head out of the sand you'd know that "progressives" aren't the only women who have abortions !!

And only ignorance calls a fetus a "child". No children are involved in an abortion and it's just ignorance, hysteria, and propaganda to call it "murdering children"

IF you had a good argument you wouldn't NEED to exaggerate and lie.



And since abortion has been around for thousands of years I can guarantee it will never die out....but hopefully as the world PROgresses those who want to make women's lives as hard as possible WILL be turned into the dinosaurs they are...and go extinct..

 

Lather, rinse, repeat...lather, rinse, repeat.....


no matter how many times you post it , it will not be true....every one of your points has been defeated.

Oh, and your view of women and how YOU want to train them and control them and think of them as stupid children is very patriarchal.......and sociopathic...

 

I see from your statistics that the Republican's plan to make abortion harder to access makes the woman wait longer and INCREASE their chances of DEATH.....

And the Republicans claim they DON'T have a War on Women?????What!!????

 

On what grounds would you take issue with it? One study found:

I doubt very much if the pregnancy-associated rate in the above study even includes pregnancy associated homicides:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449204/

Legal abortion is one of the safest medical procedures, especially early in the pregnancy. The majority are performed within 8 weeks, and 90% within 12 weeks.

Studies by pro-lifers are notoriously flawed. Byron Calhoun, for example:

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2...virginia-lawmakers-relied-discredited-doctor/

By "holding them responsible," do you mean bullying them to be responsible? Adoptive parents can be irresponsible too, even abusive. And there is nothing about childbirth that makes parents more responsible. Millions of children in the US suffer neglect, abuse and food insecurity.

That isn't true. Half of all pregnancies are unplanned.

Absolutely. Having a choice allows her to maintain her dignity. Being forced to use her body against her will denies her dignity.

You would condemn either choice a single pregnant woman makes?

Absolutely, a stable household is best, and that is more likely when women have control of their own reproduction.

Unfortunately, domestic abuse victims can be subject to reproductive coercion, either by forced pregnancy or forced abortion, or both. It's appalling that you think the government should engage in reproductive coercion.

As for pro-choice organizations, you are demonizing. Pro-choice means the woman's choice.

Are teenagers bullied by laws to get abortions, like they are bullied by TRAP laws to not get one?

Women's rights advocates are advocates for women. They are opposed to bullying women for whatever reason. And yes, they speak out against reproductive coercion.

Basically, those who want to deny women rights, religious followers who promote subjugation of women, misogynists.

It is only YOUR belief there is "injustice being done to the unborn." Others believe morality is about the well-being of sentient beings. Why not direct your attention to the injustice being done to the born, the millions of children suffering from abuse and poverty?

 

They already have birth control and sex education for minors in the schools.