Killing Babies no Different from Abortion, Experts Say

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  1. Cady

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    Like it did (not) in Chile and El Salvador?

    Or actually, anywhere ever.
     
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    Such twisted logic. To fight against abortion is causing more abortions? Obamacare doesn't reduce abortions, it increases them by subsidizing the activity. Liberals live in a fantasy world where up is down and down is up.

    Don't pretend to care about women and children. You don't. You do nothing for women who suffer from depression and PTSD after having abortions.
    You do not even acknowledge the number of suicides of women which are a direct result of abortions. What do you care? As long as the pockets of the greedy abortionists are filled.

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    How do you know it didn't? Because some liberal pro-abortion groups says so?
     
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    :) I love you far out anti-woman, Anti-Human rights extremists! You turn people away from your agenda with your ignorance and hate :) Thank you!
     
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    You are fighting ineffectively. Legislation doesn't work. It never has, anywhere. You (pro-lifers) refuse to adopt methods proven to work--freely available birth control and real sex education. By not using methods that work, and rejecting methods that do work, you are causing more abortions.

    Obamacare doesn't subsidize abortions. You make up your own reality and then claim "liberals live in a fantasy world." Obamacare reduces abortions by giving women better access to birth control.

    It isn't having abortions that causes depression, it is people pointing at women, screaming at them, "YOU KILLED YOUR BABY," and JUDGING them about a "sin" the Bible doesn't even mention.

    Studies (real ones) show women who have had abortions have no more depression than women who give birth. Pro-lifers are the ones who pretend to care about women's depression. They don't, it is a only a scare tactic.

    Planned Parenthood is a non-profit. Doctors who provide abortions would make MORE money delivering babies.

    If abortion is criminalized, there will still be "abortionists," sleazy back alley butchers making money from dangerous abortions. That will be on you.

    Because every survey ever done says abortion is rampant there. That's what happens when women don't have ready access to birth control.
     
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    You are anti-woman. What gives you the right to speak for all women? Half the women in the country are pro-life.

    You're ingnorant if you think you speak for all women.
     
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    And those women are perfectly free to control their own bodies however they want.

    We speak for women who may need abortions at some point, including those mentioned above.
     
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    There's that up is down, down is up logic. Fighting abortions causes more abortions. That is stupid and ridiculous.

    Obamacare pays for abortions. If you subsidize something, you are going to get more of it. Easy access to abortions
    discourages the use of birth control.

    There aren't nearly enough people doing that to account for the number of women suffering from depression and PTSD.
    Studies that don't agree with your pro-choice funded propaganda are real studies. Pro-life organizations actually fund
    help lines and counseling for victims of abortion.

    There are thousands of people who have become millionaires off of non-profits. They get paid salaries just like everyone else.

    Planned parenthood executives are getting very rich off of abortions. The President Cecile Richards gets nearly $400,000 annual salary.

    No, that will be on them. I cannot be held responsible for evil people breaking the law. We don't make robbery legal
    because people will do it if it is illegal.

    Or, if abortion is rampant then it must be readily available which discourages the use of birth control.
     
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    Well using that logic, I speak for all women including pro-choice women who will one day
    become victims of the abortionists.
     
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    The only "logic" in your posts is the word you type ("logic")....nothing else..... :)
     
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    Do you want to reduce abortions or just make them dangerous for women? Which?


    No it doesn't, proven on this forum repeatedly. Don't be such a dupe for "pro-life" lies.

    Only at every abortion clinic.

    Proof abortion doesn't cause depression:
    Now you can stop repeating that "pro-life" propaganda.

    Funded by "pro-lifers" who have been duped by their lies? See above.

    The ones who really get rich from abortion are "pro life" authors and speakers who peddle the "pro-life" lies.

    When you take away legal clinics knowing that doesn't stop abortions but creates a market for the butchers, yes, the blood is on your hands. Denying the inevitable doesn't make you less guilty.


    True, dangerous illegal abortion is readily available. Birth control is not, because of the Catholic position on birth control and poverty.
     
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    No, because you see nothing wrong with treating them as sex objects.

    Your words pretend to speak for all women. Your attempt to cast aspersions on my integrity only shows your own intellectual dishonesty.

    Me? I see no hate or misogyny coming from anyone but those who would use and dishonor women as receptacles for their
    sexual pleasure and dispose of the consequences as trash.

    Once again your personal attacks only betray your lack of character.

    Shoving your lack of morality in people's faces doesn't work for me or your argument.

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    I agree, you have no ability to follow a logical argument.
     
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    All abortions are dangerous. I would like to eliminate all abortions. Wouldn't you?

    How do you account for women having multiple abortions? For some, abortion is birth control.

    Thus the lack of concern for women and their mental health needs by liberals. There is no problem
    if you pretend it does not exist.

    Those studies are pro-abortion propaganda. I won't fall for it.

    There's that up is down, down is up argument. People fighting against abortion are getting rich off of abortions? That makes no sense. Especially after I just showed the number of Planned Parenthood executives who are becoming millionaires of off abortions. That is something you cannot deny.

    Those illegal butchers will be the same butchers who are doing the job legally now. Accommodating them now
    is blood on your hands now.

    All abortions are dangerous. Anti-Catholic bigotry does nothing to help your argument.
     
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    :eekeyes::roflol::omg::roflol:



    OMG!



    And what do YOU call it when you want to control the most intimate part of women and their most important decisions...???
    Nevermind, I forgot you have delusions of grandeur and think you rule the earth ...LOL....


    Are you writing for the "Onion"....you just cannot be for real.....:roflol:


    But thanks again, I'm sure you turn so many people off with your extremist views....keep going !!!
     
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    No, all abortions are not dangerous and you HAVE NEVER PROVEN THEY ARE.



    You post : ""I would like to eliminate all abortions."""


    BUT HAVE NO IDEA HOW, NO SOLUTION besides screaming at women about how evil they are for having abortions.....and WHY haven't you seen that it hasn't eliminated abortions?

    Abortions have been around for thousands of years but YOU think YOU can eliminate them......got some hilarious magical plan? Let's hear it ????
     
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    How is vacuuming a fetus out of a womb not the most intimate part of a woman?

    I can think of nothing more extreme and brutal to do to a woman.
     
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    Wouldn't it be best if we could eliminate the need for abortions?

    Any woman can die from a botched abortion. There is no guarantee of survival.
     
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    You call vacuuming out a woman's uterus "dignity" ?

    One individual's bodily autonomy ends where another's begins.
     
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    A woman can die from a botched abortion which is WHAT YOU WANT because women don't die from abortions in clean , safe, clinics with good doctors....IF YOU HAVE YOUR WAY THERE WILL BE MORE BOTCHED ABORTIONS because not all women will have access to safe clean clinics and good doctors and THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.


    AS I posted and as you completely ignored because YOU HAVE NO SOLUTION....


    You post : ""I would like to eliminate all abortions."""

    BUT HAVE NO IDEA HOW, NO SOLUTION besides screaming at women about how evil they are for having abortions.....and WHY haven't you seen that it hasn't eliminated abortions?

    Abortions have been around for thousands of years but YOU think YOU can eliminate them......got some hilarious magical plan? Let's hear it ????[/SIZE]
     
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    There is no guarantee of survival of pregnancy either.......any woman risks dying by being pregnant.......
     
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    It isn't undignified, if it's a choice she made herself. Can't you understand, if she is forced to use her body against her will, that robs her of her dignity. Like rape.

    You are joking, right? As if a fetus had bodily autonomy? Funny.
     
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    I think we've established which side is full of lecherous bastards who use women and drive them down to the abortion
    clinics to force them to have abortions.

    Half the fetuses who have their lives taken from them are female. They are the only ones losing their rights as a human being.

    Shame on you for doing it in the name of human rights.
     
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    What did I say?

    So to repeat...Wouldn't it be best if we could eliminate the need for abortions?

    Any woman can die from a botched abortion. There is no guarantee of survival.
     
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    You don't have to yell. But thank you for acknowledging for once that I AM RIGHT!
     
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