“Speaker Johnson: Border bill is even worse than expected”

Illegally, yes, but once they cross the border according to current law they can declare refugee status and are entitled to a hearing and appearance infront of a Judge, the latter now taking up to two years. Even those taking on the razor wire are entitled to the same circumstances

Which is why the immigration laws themselves need to be changed, which for the first time in decades, this
proposal does, and does in a bipartisan way with both sides making concessions they certainly won’t make again for any time soon

 

At this desperate crisis-point, the only sensible stop-gap solution is to declare a national security MORATORIUM on ALL immigration into the United States for a period of several years! The only very rare exceptions would be ones in which applicants requesting asylum provide proof that a foreign government is in hot pursuit of them with the intent to do them bodily harm.

Anything else is bullshit! WE ARE BEING OVERRUN! Neither Democrats nor Republicans seem to understand this, and by now it's almost too late to do anything useful or effective about it -- especially with Democrats in ultimate control!

 

And the Democrats served it up on a silver platter.

 

"make concessions"

First and foremost ALL lawmakers should admit that the illegal aliens broke our laws and are here illegally. That admission as simple as it sounds, would be amajor first step. They must stop using the term refugees or migrants because they are in the purest definition, illegal aliens

 

People seeking asylum are here legally

 

This bill gives us permanent open borders. That's all it does.

 

Anti Biden campaign issues aren't hard to find. Currently our border problems are a very good one just based on visibility and the difference between reality and what this administration is trying to pass off as the truth.

 

Not if they crossed that river at a place other than a point of entry.

 

“Speaker Johnson: Border bill is even worse than expected”

which means it's better than expected and if it passes, repubs will not be able to attack Biden for the border, so republicans wont pass it

 

When everyone claims to be seeking asylum then no one enters illegally. How convenient.

 

Yes even then. That’s why trump caged them instead of deporting them. Did you forget?

 

Some still do

 

Why are we worried about immigration when our population is growing at half the global rate? In the USA someone is born every 9.5 seconds, but someone dies every 9 seconds. We are going to want more immigrants, not less, in the future. I imagine with dropping birthrates, especially in western nations, countries will be COMPETING for immigrants, not trying to send them away. We should get them while we can.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...tagnation-without-immigrants/?sh=54bd015f250a

 

No, they are illegal and should be returned to their point of origin. Cages are just for holdint till transportation can be arranged.

 

They aren't coming here to help us.

 

Does it set an objective limit on how many people can come here? Thats what we need.

 

One opinion says that it allows Mayorkas to grant asylum directly, and thereby welfare eligibility, green cards, chain migration and possibly citizenship.

There are several things about the border mess that people are concerned with, but a large one is- Money. Governments, federal and state, are spending a large amount of cash to deal with this. Airline flights, busses, hotel rooms, cell phones, various cash benefits and overloaded enforcement. Every one of those dollars are taxpayer dollars that the taxpayers didn't approve to be spent that way.

 

Lankford did his best trying to reach a deal, I'll give him that, and he truly believes its a bill in the right direction, but he must have known his own party would kill it in the house like they did in 2012. They don't care what's in the bill, because they are not passing any bills about immigration.

 

I know plenty about politics. I also know that the libs have been sticking it to the conservatives for a few decades now. It's our turn.

 

No sir I quoted you what NYC is suing based on. I'll quote it again.

"The New York provision dictates that anyone who “knowingly brings or causes to be brought a needy person from out of state into this one for the purpose of making him a public charge … shall be obligated to convey such person out of state or support him at his own expense.”"

Good luck showing that the buses dropped them off for the purpose of making them a public charge and not because they were paid to take them there and drop them off lol

And for the record the bus company doesn't have to tell NY **** about where they drop their passengers off. Those bus routes are not law, they're internal procedures.

Furthermore you cannot aide and abet a known criminal IN THE COURSE OF a crime. The crime had already been committed. That was crossing the border illegally. Once they're here they're no longer committing the crime. But hey I'm cool with that because if you're right then we get to sue all of the hospitals and schools and governmental entities who have aided and abetted these illegals for years now.

So I'm all for your interpretation.

 

How does status quo stick it to anyone? The argument has been that they want to "import" as many as possible so they can vote for Dems.

 

How are they any different than any other person interacting with the economy here? Sure, it will cost a little to get them started, but the end value that they produce, especially when successive generations are taken into account, would far, far outstrip the initial investment.

 

Too much of a good thing all at once is overpowering. This high level of tolerance and understanding is usually coming from a place that isn't being overwhelmed and is not likely to be. These people are overwhelming the system.

 

Lol, so say the politicians using it as a political football. Neither side wants immigration to go smoothly, as both can use it as an issue. With the amount of money we spend on other BS, we could easily make immigration a smooth process, integrating them far more easily than we do now. But that would remove an issue that the government loves to use as a distraction from real issues. Look behind the curtain.

 

No the law says they can request asylum even if they entered illegally. Congress can change it.