“Speaker Johnson: Border bill is even worse than expected”

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  1. Par10

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    This really pi$$es me off. If the House Republicans don't like it, then pass their own version and go to reconciliation. Just killing it because Trump doesn't like it is a chicken $hit thing to do.
     
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    And that needs to be fixed. A) keep them from crossing illegally by whatever means works and B) change the law so that if they are caught crossing anywhere other than a port of entry, they get immediately deported to the farthest place within the country that they crossed from. That may not be fun if you get deported to Mexico/Guatemala but definitely not fun if you get deported to Canada.
     
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    Maybe Trump can, we'll find out.
     
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    This is not normal immigration, it's an invasion and in no way is it beneficial to working class Americans.
     
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    Lol, it is the politicians themselves arranging to make it so. It is perfect for them. It keeps people coming to the country that we will definitely need in the future, and it gives them an issue that they can turn into a convenient distraction from all of the real problems we have, the biggest being the corrupt two party (in reality one party) system that is keeping us distracted with illusions.
     
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    yep, that is our rules.... and other countries people learning our rules

    in IT security, this would be the time to re-code the app, as people are abusing a feature in a way it was never intended, the feature may of always existed and been used, but things changed as everyone now knows how to abuse the feature
     
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    The House did pass it's own version. It went right to Schumer's desk and sat there collecting dust.
     
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    I've heard this excuse for open borders before and it doesn't make sense Due to automation and AI, we're likely to need fewer people in the future, not more. The only immigrants we need are ones who have some rare skills that we don't have in this country, and that doesn't describe anyone who's been part of this Biden border surge.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    which people? Do you mean the ones who entered illegally?
     
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    Possibly, maybe even probably. But that still doesn't change the fact that this is a made-up crisis that is being used as a distraction for the real problems, along with a media that is complicit in spreading the nonsense the political machine is spewing.
    And, when AI IS running everything, a slightly increased population won't matter in the least.
     
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    Well I agree at least that this is a made up crisis. It was artificially created on Biden's first day.
     
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    A) doesn’t stop them from requesting asylum, many did just that at a port of entry
    B) yet the house has passed nothing to fix it
     
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    Yes. Entered illegally and legally allowed to remain until an asylum hearing
     
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    Or democrats can campaign that Republicans are refusing to even hear a bipartisan bill to address this, take back over the house and then make it a felony to bus immigrants as the right is doing.

    And they can sit in the filth they have demanded.

    Or they Republicans can amend the bill to compromise and act like actual adults instead of acting like they are the sole control of the government

    How the **** can anyone vote for a Republican at this point?
     
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    Hardly, the Senate passes the proposal and the House won’t even put it up for a vote gives every Democrat running a big time TV ad
     
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    What are they going to say in those ads?
     
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    “Border Patrol union endorses Senate immigration deal”
    “This will allow us to remove single adults expeditiously and without a lengthy judicial review which historically has required the release of these individuals into the interior of the United States.” Judd said in a statement. “This alone will drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally and evade apprehension. The Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage.”

    https://san.com/cc/border-patrol-uni...igration-deal/
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bor...ter-status-quo

    The same Union that heavily supported Trump in both of his elections

    If it passes the Senate it is going to be tough to Mike to continue to ignore it, and if he does, serves up a huge campaign plus for Democrats in November
     
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    Any time a Republican brings up the border the Democrat will quickly point out the GOP were given just what they asked for and balked
     
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    First off, what does your pic of what Elise Stefanik said about 1/6 have to do with the rest of your post?

    Second, here's one thing that makes it DOA: LINK: Texas Stripped of Powers in Border Security Bill (msn.com) All those concessions will mean jack squat if the only place that challenges can be heard in is Leftist Identitarian Land, AKA: Washington DC. THE most leftist populated location in the entire country in the same sq mile radius. Even NYC isn't as leftist centric as Washington DC.
     
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    And the Democrats are going to say, "We proposed a bill that gave permanent amnesty and the Republicans voted it down".

    Be honest, how do you think that's going to go over?
     
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    There ya go. No idea how much they spent though. But with 8 million people that have entered into our country since Biden has been in office, 6 million if you don't count his first year, the amount of money they have spent is no small number.
     
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    *sigh* for the one hundredth million bazillion time...no one cares about LEGAL immigration. Come here LEGALLY. Through the proper process. Is that really too much to ask? Showing up at our border, being caught and then claiming asylum IS NOT the proper process. It might be A process. But it is NOT the PROPER process.
     
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    lol So let me make sure I understand. Your side caused this mess and then wants to use it to give limited protection to the border while they increase the number of visas for illegal immigrants already in the country, give essentially approval for allowing in nearly 5,000 undocumented illegal immigrants a DAY and not being able to do **** about it.

    It's funny yall didn't care we have been trying for DECADES to get the leftist clowns to do something about the border and the left has just thumbed their nose at us and told us to **** off. We either give them their path to citizenship or they're not doing anything for the border and in fact will do everything they can to make it as porous as possible.

    Now because your constituents are bent the **** out of shape and threatening your party you want to get up here and demand we agree to your compromise or we don't care about the border?

    Bahahahah. I have a better idea, how about we treat you the same way you've treated us in regards to the border for decades. We tell the left to either capitulate and give us everything we want just like they have been doing to us for years about the border or they can **** off and pay for their illegal immigrants and stop begging for federal bailouts.
     
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    I LOVE it. For YEARS we have BEGGED the left to help us stop the flow at the border. But no the left demanded we give them a path to citizenship for their illegals already here so they can get a ton of new voters or else they're not gonna help at all and do EVERYTHING in their power to stop us from securing the border.

    And now that we are in the power position, they want us to take the scraps they're willing to give us.

    Nahhhhh that's not how this works homie. Capitulate or suffer the consequences. Just like you did to us. There should be no compromise. I say should because we still have a lot of RINO's in office.

    **** ain't fun is it? Shoulda thought about that before you bent us over with no lube for the past 30 years on the border.
     
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