At its rout, doesn't "pro-life" indicate they beleive women are "stupid" or "evil"?

Being FORCED to give birth can be a punishment for a woman especially if she doesn't want to give birth...and Anti-Choicers prove it's punishment every tiime they say the woman should suffer the consequences of her actions....

They prove it every time they say they'd make exceptions for rape and incest...

 

Yes, it would be that simple if nosy, busy body No-Life of their own control freak misogynists would just mind their own tiny business.

 

Here's a better analogy, it's her body, and none of your business, you can't touch it, you can't tell her what to do with it, it's her choice what happens.

 

Having an abortion means women are choosing to not create "someone else's life," and that is not "selfish."

 

There's no dislike or mistrust ?

Ok, Now PROVE NO Anti-Choicer dislikes or mistrusts women......

 

This is such a tired cliché. And when applied to other things, it quickly becomes obvious how ridiculous it is. Observe:

Don't like murder? Don't commit one.

Don't like rape? Don't rape anyone.

Don't like slaves? Don't buy one.

 

No, that happens before the child has been conceived. You can't "choose not to create" something after you've already created it. It doesn't work like that. You're just rationalizing why it's okay to kill somebody so you don't have to take care of them. That's not just evil. That's a whole different level of evil. It is pure selfish depravity.

 

So how do you feel about women who have abortions??

 

Sorry dude, your comparing a constituinally approved, legal medical procedure with criminal activities.

 

If a one-celled zygote were a child, or "someone else," as you said, why does the woman need to suffer 9 months of pregnancy? She could just have the "one-celled person" removed, and save herself all that misery.

 

Sorry, dude. Slavery was once legal too. You can't use the law to justify itself. Aside from the fact that it's not logical, you're also now tacitly admitting that the law is always correct no matter what it states. Which means there is no reason to ever change it.

 

If a newborn baby is a person, why does a woman need to suffer through 18 years of raising it? It should walk out of the hospital and take care of itself.

Again, the fact that you describe pregnancy as "suffering" and "misery" speaks volumes about what you think of children and the human race as a whole. What have you been through that has birthed such an ugly view of humanity in your soul?

 

She is not required to raise it.

Your statement speaks volumes about what you know of pregnancy. It DOES involve suffering and misery (and worse), and women are more than happy to sacrifice for wanted pregnancies, but no woman should be forced to.

 

You make a good point, try & change the law, until you do, don't buy any slaves.

 

[insert chicken and egg joke].

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No I don't think it is inherently misogynistic.

 

I support states that have crisis pregnancy centers. CPCs encourage women to keep the baby, without making it illegal for a woman to have an abortion. CPCs dont take away a woman's choice to do the wrong thing. They encourage her to do the right thing.

That's like saying, "it's wrong for schools to teach kids to say no to alcohol/cigarettes, because they have a choice how to control their bodies". Just because people have the legal right to do the wrong thing with their bodies, it doesn't mean that it's wrong to encourage them to do the right thing.

 

People have the right to do what they want with their bodies, as long as it doesn't violate another human being's rights. For example, rape is illegal, because a man doing what he wants with his body, does not justify violating a woman's rights.

 

I don't want my taxes going to organizations that are doing nothing more than shaming, guilting and flat out lying to pregnant women.

Why are schools saying ANYTHING about it all? They do not have to encourage nor discourage it. They can simply not mention or discuss it at all. Schools should not be dragging politics into the classrooms and things like moral beliefs should be left to the parents to teach their kids. Same with abortion, if parents want to teach their kids abortion is right or wrong that is their right to do so. I also think there should always be an option to opt kids out of sex ed classes since that is something that truly should remain in the parents domain, but if they are truly that uncomfortable with talking to their kids about sex then it's nice to have the school option to explain it, but they definitely need an outline of what will be taught in class too because some parents might not be comfortable with their child learning how to use contraceptives based on religious reasons, which is their right as parents.

Public education shouldn't be teaching kids anything more than mathematics, Sciences, English literature, languages, art and other subjects that are meant to prepare them for a future career.

And as for CPCs they should be shut down for spreading false information to women. It is not right to use taxpayer money to lie to people.

 

What rights?

If a woman can't be forced to have sex, why is it ok to force her to give birth?

 

WTF? What a stupid comparison. Comparing an innocent baby with a rapist doesn't make any sense.

 

WTF you made the comparison!

 

I would like my tax dollars going to organizations who encourage women to keep their babies rather than choosing the horrible act of abortion.

I agree with you that doing an immoral thing (lying to people) doesn't justify a good end result (women choosing to do the right thing.) But give me one example (besides mental health issues-which is not a lie, IMO) of CPCs lying to women.

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I made the comparison to explain why abortion was wrong, not to justify it. two different arguements.

 

No. Yours and my taxpayer money are going to nothing more than flat out lies. Do you even pay taxes yet Sam? Do you have a job?

Besides mental health issues? So you mean you already know that they lie to women? So considering that why would you think it's ever ok for our money to go to LYING? Ever? I thought you were a Christian, 'Thou shalt not lie.' Period. No ifs ands or buts about it.

I can't believe you Sam. YOU made the comparison and now you are going to sit here and accuse Cady of comparing fetuses to rapists when she didn't even do that? WTF, messed up man. Lies, lies lies. No wonder you approve of CPC lying, you do it yourself.

 

I don't pay taxes nor do I have a job yet.

I never said that mental health issues are a lie. I said this. "besides mental health issues-which is not a lie, IMO".

Forget about my "wtf" comment. Using profanity was rather off topic and unnecessary for this discussion. I just used it because I get nervous when debating.

Cady compared an unwanted pregnancy with rape. She did compare fetuses with rapists, in an indirect way.

 

In your opinion? You opinion does not matter when it comes to medical Science. Do they have per reviewed Psychological studies and Scientific reports to back up their views? No they do not. So it is LIES. Taxpayer money should never go to support medical institutes that are not real medical institutes and that do nothing more than lie to people.

Here you go, common lies told by CPCs to women and there are citations and evidence to back up every single of their statements disproving those lies. So if you even try to utter the words 'biased source' so help me...

http://www.naralva.org/what-is-choice/cpc/common-lies.shtml

No she did not. YOU DID and she responded succinctly. So if you think she compared rapists and fetuses it is because you originally compared them to begin with and she went forward in the discussion from there.