At its rout, doesn't "pro-life" indicate they beleive women are "stupid" or "evil"?

It's only wrong when the taxpayers are paying you to say it. You can say that stuff as much as you like in your free time, I seriously don't care.

What a bunch of bull.

Yes you do. You lied right here in this thread multiple times stating that Cady was comparing a fetus and a rapist which she never did.

You also support CPCs which blatantly lie to people and I already proved they do.



Sam are you freaking trolling or something? You keep repeating the same crud that's been debunked time and time again. Time to find a new one trick pony to play.

 

Who told a woman she should have an abortion?


I didn't.

 

Irrelevant.

 

Oh, I shouldn't just laugh and run , I should add that YES, Sam, YOUR morals are totally irrelevent...you finally agreed. They have nothng to do with anyone else....

 

She can all of the above things if she chooses to, and yet again you ignore that bloody big elephant in the room .. tell me Unifier what part of living inside of another person and living outside of another person do you find hard to comprehend, or is it more of a case of you just willfully ignore what doesn't fit with your opinion.

 

Because it is not your job or prerogative to shame others into guilt.

In your opinion, your opinion is not law and neither does it have any bearing on any other person.

What you think someone is supposed to feel guilty about or not is irrelevant, keep your own council and keep your nose out of a woman's vagina.

Unifier is not some 'expert' and why can you not make your own arguments .. oh that's right you tried and had them all blown apart, and again what you (or unifier) consider "inconvenient" is irrelevant you don't get to decide what other people thing and do.

Because it is only the "right thing" in your opinion and your opinion doesn't get to over rule another person.

What is wrong with you, do you not support your constitution, do you want to make a proportion of your population 'slaves' to the state for the term of their pregnancy.

 

Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) tells a woman she should have an abortion . .what cloud are you floating around on .. have you inhaled some sort of hallucinogenic?

 

He only claimed someone did , he has, as usual, offered no proof despite being asked twice...

 

I never said it was my job.

I never mentioned making abortion illegal in my original comment. I am talking about CPCs.

CPCs telling women to keep the baby, reduces abortion rates. Please explain how "women having the right to control their body, even for the most evil selfish reason"somehow equals="it's wrong to encourage women to not have an abortion".

CPCs don't decide what women can or can't do. They only encourage them to make a certain choice. And yes, compared to you, Unifier is an expert on this issue.

Trying to influence somebody is not the same thing as overruling them. I never said my opinion was a fact. Another misrepresentation.

Pregnant women are not slaves. Unlike the slaves during the 1800s, they can still live normal lives.

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It's a hypothetical.

Have you? It would explain why your arguments obviously don't make any sense.

 

Who told a woman she should have an abortion?


I didn't.



Why can't you answer ...said the wrong thing???? Or trolling???

 

Then shut up about making women feel guilty about things, if its not your job then your opinion on it doesn't matter.

You said abortion is evil, don't you want to make 'evil' things illegal then?

Prove it.

and again it is only your opinion that women have abortions for "the most evil selfish reason", and again who says it is wrong to encourage women not to have an abortion, what is wrong is the lies CPC's tell these women .. lies that have been shown you on numerous occasions . .don't you think lying is wrong?

They may not actually decide but they do try to guilt trip (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guilt trip ) others into making a decision they want, you may be happy this happens .. personally I find it disgusting.

The guy that thinks there is no difference between a fetus inside of a woman and a baby outside of a woman . .yeah ok, I see why you are so ignorant of reality then.

Influence by lies is actually illegal, you do know that don't you .. it's called false representation;

1. an untrue representation willfully made to deceive another to his damage
2. a representation in fact untrue but recklessly made when the maker has no knowledge as to its truth or falsity

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/false representation

The only thing that surprises me is that a CPC has not been taken to court over false representation.

and please do show me where I say you say your opinion is fact, the misrepresentation is all yours not mine.

So they can do as they please then under what you want can they, no problem with them getting an abortion then really, after all if they are not 'slaves' (you did notice the ' marks in the original comment did you not - do you know what they mean) for the term of the pregnancy then there is no reason for them not to exercise their freedom and have an abortion .. though in reality that wouldn't be true as you well know, you want to place the woman under the control of the state while she is pregnant, you want to remove her option to have full control over who, what, where and when her body, or parts of, are used by another in order to sustain their life.

 

bollocks .. you made a all out statement that you cannot defend and now you are backtracking, you are one of the most dishonest posters I have ever seen on this forum.

and yet you have NEVER been able to dispute or defeat a single one of them, while every single thing you have ever posted since first arriving here has been shot full of holes and sunk without trace, despite the fact that you just go round the merry-go-round and recycle the same things over, and over, and over again .. failing that you steal other peoples arguments and try (usually failing) to portray them as your own.

Face it, you are so far out of your depth here that it almost makes me feel sad for you.

 

i recycle the same things because u use the same stupid arguements.

 

Oh right so you use things that have been blown apart because I use things you cannot answer ... as I said dishonest and out of your depth.

Bye Bye Sam, I'm done with you.

 

I am not being dishonest. I did give on topic responses to your arguements.

 

I never said it was my job. It's the job of CPCs.

Irrelevant.

Why is guilt tripping disgusting? If somebody is doing something horrible, they should feel guilty about it.

 

CPC's heap guilt on women, then claim abortion should be banned because it causes mental illness. Clever ploy.

 

How and why is it "hypothetical"?

Are you now admitting that NO one told a woman she should have an abortion? You just wanted an excuse to use your new catch phrase-of-the-week, "double standard"?

 

No, she can't. Leaving a hungry child to die instead of feeding it results in prison time, genius. Everybody knows this. And few people have a problem with it. Because most people recognize the value of human life when they are forced to look it in the face. But when it's hidden behind a wall of tissue, they can rationalize to themselves why it's okay to kill it. Out of sight, out of mind. If wombs had windows, nobody would be "pro-choice."

What part of living inside another person do you not understand?

 

Adopting out your child is not a crime.
Dropping the baby at a hospital is not a crime.

 

You keep saying that, Unifier....then dodge when asked "Okay, if you REALLY believe that and abortion were illegal? Would you want a woman EXECUTED if she took RU-486 and terminated her pregnancy? Yes or No?"


(BTW, add Unifier to the list...of "pro-lifers" who prove my OP premise is true)

 

Why won't you answer my question about how you feel about women who have abortions??

 

He did, he thinks they're "murderers".

The NEXT question is....would he want them TREATED as "murderers"? Or is it just rhetoric?

 

The fact that she would be prosecuted does NOT change the fact that she can choose not to do them, that is your contention that she can be FORCED to do those things, when the reality is she cannot be forced to do anything.

Force in the context you used means "make (someone) do something against their will", just explain how you can force someone to do something against their will, are you going to put a gun to her head?

Oh I understand it well enough though it is obvious you don't, for a start the inane comparisons you used in your original comment tells me you don't understand the difference, either that or you willfully ignore the difference.

 

And as can be seen in this thread (p.33-34 but many other places as well) Anti-Choicers dwell on the sex act, HOW the woman got pregnant is more important to some or as important to some as the abortion....shows a negative view of women ( women should only have Anti-Choicer approved sex or if they enjoyed the sex they should be punished (FORCED to give birth)...

Wonder if there's a thread in here that DOESN'T mention HOW the woman got pregnant...it shouldn't have anything to do with the abortion topic...