At its rout, doesn't "pro-life" indicate they beleive women are "stupid" or "evil"?

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  1. goober

    goober New Member

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    Just like outlawing abortion, violates a woman's rights.
     
  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why don't you want to tell me how you feel about women who have abortions?
     
  3. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Up to your old tricks again...

    The comparison is between two things a woman could be forced to do. Why is it wrong to force her to have sex, but OK to force her to give birth? Either way, she is forced to use her body against her will.
     
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    They're murderers. And you support murder by supporting their barbarism. I thought I made that clear already.
     
  5. The Amazing Sam's Ego

    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    It's okay for a woman to be legally required to give birth, because the fetus is an innocent child. What a sick and evil comparison u made. An innocent fetus should not be compared to a rapist.
     
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    The Amazing Sam's Ego Banned at Members Request

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    Whats your response to Cady's arguement about why abortion isn't murder?

     
  7. FoxHastings

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    The FETUS is NOT an innocent child, the fetus is a fetus. ...what a sick and evil comparison...
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    To Unifier: Ah, "murderers" and barbarians.....


    ..... so you like women who have abortions????
     
  9. Unifier

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    Why is it okay to force her to feed and clothe her children for 18 years after they exit the womb? Why can't she choose to ignore the crying baby in the other room? Telling her she has to take care of those things is forcing her to use her body against her will. What if she's tired and doesn't feel like getting up to feed the baby? Why can't she just let it starve to death? Because when another person's life hinges upon your actions, your convenience is no longer the top priority. This is not rocket science. Once upon a time, it was called common sense. But today, it is so uncommon that it is no longer even fitting to use that label.
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    Uh, you canNOT force a woman to take care of her children.....it's not rocket science...


    And Sam asked what you thought about Cady's post.......about murder.....
     
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    What's wrong with making pregnant women feel guilty about wanting to have an abortion? Abortion is an evil action. Women are supposed to feel guilty about it. As Unifer said, most women want abortions because raising a kid is inconvenient. What's wrong with encouraging her to do the right thing and keep the baby?
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    A. She doesn't WANT it.

    Would YOU want to be born to a mother who didn't want YOU

    B. She can't afford it and doesn't want wacko conservatives scraming at her because she's on welfare...

    C. It's none of your business.....




    Making people feel guilty over something that isn't wrong is stupid and misogynistic...
     
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    If it's nobody's buisness, why is it okay to tell a pregnant women that she should have an abortion? But God forbid you tell her that having an abortion is wrong. double standards.
     
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    Nothing. Go ahead and stand outside abortion clinics and call women murderers all day long, but don't do it on my tax dollars.

    Then why don't more women just give birth and put it up for adoption if it's about the daunting notion of raising a child?

    Again, do whatever you want as long as the people of the United States are not paying for you to spread lies and bother people.

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    Nobody can force anyone to take care of children; we have an adoption and foster system chock full of kids just for that reason.
     
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    What's so evil and wrong about telling women that they should keep their baby? I don't get the math. Please explain how "women have right to control how body is used, regardless of how immoral and evil and disgusting they are acting"="it's wrong to tell women to do the right thing and keep their baby".

    Because adoption is awkward.

    Misrepresenting my position. I do not endorse lying.
     
  16. FoxHastings

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    Who said it's OK to tell a pregnant woman she should have an abortion?

    I never have.
     
  17. Fugazi

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    I 100% disagree with the highlighted comment above, there is a vast difference between being biologically dependent on a single person and socially dependent on any person.

    When you can show me any other instance in civil law that forces one person to allow another person to use their body in order to sustain their life, or forces another person to give, even a cup full of blood to another person THEN and only then would you have a valid point.

    As far as your allusion to consent to sex = consent to pregnancy, that has already been debunked numerous times.
     
  18. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Consent to credit card use=consent to credit card payments.
     
  19. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    How often do you have to be told that YOUR "morals", YOUR "right and wrong" are NOT everyone else's....why can't you understand that???
     
  20. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) analogy .. explain and blown out of the water soooooo many times.
     
  21. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    And AGAIN what don't you understand about the fact that a person CAN


    CAN


    CAN withdraw consent to pay their credit card bill.....
     
  22. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and I keep asking you to prove there is such a thing as a right to life.
     
  23. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    It is not hard to understand, the question remains for the proof that the zef IS another person, as yet that proof is not conclusive nor is there a consensus among subject experts.
     
  24. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and as usual you ignore the elephant in the room, tell me oh wise one what is the biggest, major difference between a fetus and a wife .. actually I'll tell you, a wife does not live inside of her husband.

    Urm, biology lacking here I see, a fetus DOES protect itself .. what the hell do you think the chemicals it releases suppressing the local immune reaction of the woman are for, what do you think the invasion (and that is the medical term used) of the fetal cells into the uterine wall in order to secure a life sustaining connection are for, what do you think the chemicals released that directly effect the brain of the woman are for?

    and you so exactly the same against the woman who doesn't want to give birth, you have no consideration for her feelings on the matter none what so ever.

    yep, and thanks to the choice (you know that thing you want to remove) of her mother to consent to the injuries inflicted upon her body she was born.

    The belief that some births are not a punishment to some women speaks volumes about what you think of some women and by extension the female race as a whole. Notice how the support for banning abortion always comes down to devaluing females.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    FFS .. Yet again it needs to be explained to you.

    When you take out a credit card your sign a CONTRACT that states the terms and conditions of your agreement, part of that agreement is to pay back what you owe (or a percentage of it) each month, now you show me the signed contract between the man and the woman that states should she become pregnant she will agree to carry to term .. unless you can do that (*)(*)(*)(*) about credit cards because it is an inane comparison .. and you know it.
     

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