Black Georgia sheriff says shooting of Rayshard Brooks by Atlanta police was 'completely justified'

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  1. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find it fascinating that all these people that seemed to think that drunk driving was a crime and many brought up the fact that 25 people a day die as a result of drunk driving, but One fkn idiot makes several dumb mistakes and get his dumb ass shot and then all of a sudden DUI's are a nuisance law.


    One day the left is going to wake up and learn about the term of personal responsibility.

    This idiot gets out early due to covid-19 (I read that, not sure) hes on probation and all he has to do is keep his damn nose clean and what does he do? leaves home and goes out drinking and driving and then for some sweetener on the top, assaults a cop, steals a taser and gets shot. Sounds to me like he would have been better off in jail through the virus since he doesn't do a very good job of decision making.

    Maybe he should have stayed home and did puzzles with his kid instead of going out drinking.
     
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    How about this. We expect the same standard of behavior from ALL people who interact with police officers.

    1. Do not resist arrest and assault officers.
    2. Do not take the officers weapon.
    3. Do not point the weapon at the officer and fire.

    I do not want to live among people who feel that is ok to do the preceding three actions. I want those people removed from my community. If you empathize with such people, you are free to more to their communities. Don't expect acceptance of that type of behavior in our communities.
     
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    So you want to hold society at large to a specific standard, but not a public officer paid by that society's taxes?

    I can agree that he should not have resisted arrest - or taken the taser - or run. But it didn't have to get that far, did it? Be honest with yourself...did the officers really have to push the whole thing after he offered to walk to his sister's house? He wasn't beligerent, he wasn't rude or disrespectful. Why did it have to go so far?
     
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    I have no doubt that had Brooks gotten the Officers handgun instead of his taser, Brooks would have killed them both. And I completely agree that the Officer who chased him was justified in shooting him before being incapacitated by Brooks taser and then possibly killed. They were not citizens who took it upon themselves to intercede in another persons comings and goings. They were Officers of the law, sworn to uphold the law. They did everything they were supposed to do. Brooks did everything he wasn't supposed to do. His death is just an excuse for the criminal element and the underhanded among us to commence to doing evil. And oh how they love it. Can I get an amen?
     
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    I went through worse with an overzealous cop who violated my constitutional rights and even then I didn't make the mistake of escalating the situation by resisting arrest because I knew it would only make matters worse for myself. It's unfortunate that Rayshard Brooks didn't recognize this and grabbing a weapon off of a cop is taking a chance that's not worth taking. If you feel you have been unjustly charged or treated, fight it in court. Don't get yourself slapped with additional charges and NEVER put yourself in a situation where your life is in jeopardy.

    When you're dead the question of whether or not your death was justified is useless to you. Either way you're still dead.
     
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    A tazer can only be used one time. It was pretty clear the perp fired the tazer so it was no longer a threat to anyone. Cops didn't have to shoot the guy. And if the car he was sitting in was his then they had all the information they needed to locate him. Stupid cops create their own problems and create problems for the majority of good cops.

    As for the DUI in most states if the car is parked and the key is in the ignition that would be cause for a DUI, especially if the engine is running.
     
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    Driving under the influence is a crime. You think people should just walk home after committing a crime? What if they let him walk home and a few minutes later returns for his car, causes an accident and wipes out a family?
     
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    So you can now attack cops and run with no consequences? Open season on cops I guess.
     
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    The black sheriff disagrees.
     
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    It was justified. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
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    In this case, I think it would have been much easier and more sensible for everyone involved if they took his keys and told him to walk home. He offered that prior to the breathalyzer. Honestly, I understand everyone's concern over drunk driving (but am willing to be that some of you are against random roadside testing). But as I said previously - officers need to look at a case by case basis. This man was not resisting police in the beginning. All was going along fine. If they'd taken his keys and cut him a break (like I'm sure they would have done for, say, a Senator), he would be alive today. His life matters. And it didn't need to be taken.
     
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    Death = stupid prize.

    I'm sure if one of your beloved family members was lost in exactly the same situation you would have the very same attitude. If they admitted they'd been drinking and just offered to walk home - then minutes later was dead - you'd just think they deserved it, right? Your son, your daughter.
     
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    The chance of one my loved ones driving drunk: 50%
    The chance of one of my loved ones attacking a cop: 0%
    The chance of one of my loved ones stealing a cops weapon: 0%
    The chance of one my loved ones firing a weapon at a cop: 0%

    Please create a scenario that is plausible instead of one that is outside the realm of possibility for people who maintain a normal standard of behavior.

    Do you not understand how aberrant and abhorrent those actions are? Any half way normal person would NEVER even think that those options were on the table.
     
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    Okay - you win. He was a piece of sh!t. He deserved to be shot in the back. Good thing he's gone. His life didn't matter.
     
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    Agreed! Any man who is convicted of beating his wife and children has no reason to exist in this world. If there is something that is more vile than physically abusing your own children I am hard pressed to think what it is. I am sure his wife and children not will not miss the beatings.
     
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    Idiot how? Both officers were calm the entire time up to the point he resisted arrest. The dude was wasted and was driving. I'm sure the law states in every state that is illegal. They gave him a sobriety test to which he failed. Next action is to detain him and charge him with a DUI. The guy tried to get away. Punched the officers multiple times and then took the officers taser. He then pointed the taser and fired it at the officers. This is the pinnacle of a good shoot if I ever saw one!

    Best way to avoid getting shot by police. First and foremost, don't commit a crime. Second, if you are being accused of a crime, capitulate and do everything the cops says to do and wait for your day in court. Lastly, if you just lose your mind and flee from the cops, I would highly suggest not pointing a weapon at the cops. Your chances of experiencing a lead bath increases substantially, no matter your skin color.

    The ole saying of I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6 has a real meaning!
     
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    If the law breaker had not resisted arrest, he would be alive today.

    If the man had used the taser on the two police officers he could then get their guns from them and kill them. They had no choice but to defend themselves from that happening as the law breaker turned the taser on them.

    Nuff said!
     
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    DUI is a crime. If they let him go this time, then next time maybe he kills an innocent family driving drunk because the police were so nice to not uphold the law!
     
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    I hope this cop gets VERY RICH for the mistreatment he is getting. If they convict him of anything, it will send a message that its totally normal to attack cops.
     
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    Darwin Award Winning Stupid for the reasons I stated in Post #31 above.

    Tell me, Pants, if a man raped you, was nice to the police after the fact and promised to peacefully walk away, why should the cops "escalate the situation" by arresting him?
     
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    Well I guess because he is black he must right. Certainly his opinion has nothing to do with him defending another cop right?
     
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    Only a matter of time before he's an Uncle Tom and blacks will claim that THIS black man is wrong, but theyre right.
     
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    His opinion is a black cop assessing the actions of another cop which gives him two frames of reference. You’re just some highly partisan nobody mouthing off in a forum. Forgive me if I value his opinion over yours.
     
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    He drove his car to Wendy's and then failed a sobriety test. That is a DUI. You don't get to walk home at that point as your being charged with a crime. Same if you are passed out in your car, in the passenger side. As long as the keys are in the ignition, you can be charged with a DUI. Any lawyer will tell you to place the keys are far away from the ignition as possible. Even hiding them in the back of the car is a best practice and even then, that does not assure you will not be charged with DUI.

    And if he hadn't tried to assault 2 officers, his daughter would still have a dad with a mere DUI charge (not a conviction mind you).
     
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    Conservatives don't see race as is evident in the thread title........
     
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