Can Canada and the USA be Unified into One Country?

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  1. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    The Racist Yanks would bus the Mexicans up to their new channel and post them to Canada with a kick up the back side .
     
  2. disgruntled_water watcher

    disgruntled_water watcher New Member

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    Why must a union between the U.S. and Canada be seen purely as an expansionist, zero sum endeavour. Could it not be done in a similar manner to the European Union? Each nation could maintain their identity and government and still benefit further from unrestricted trade. granted there are numerous issues (I.E. American debt) I doubt they would be as troublesome as some current E.U. issues, I.E. the Greek economic woes
     
  3. I.F.salesman

    I.F.salesman New Member Past Donor

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    I pose only one question. What form of government would be established to rule the combined countries as neither would want to give up sovereignty and both would be reluctant to share monies due to the failure of the Euro.
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Some sort of economic union would be much easier between the US and Canada than among the various EU states. But we kind of already have an economic union, NAFTA. Since we already have free trade, the major obstacle would be a unified currency, and based on the errors of the Euro, you would have to have one that would make the US and Canadian Treasuries responsible for backing any such currency.

    Frankly it seems like a lot of trouble for little gain. It would be easier if the Canadians traded in their loonies for US dollars, since Americans would never accept crayon colored currency.


    Honestly a better idea would be to have both currencies as legal tender for both countries. That would provide a check on either government trying to devalue their currency since people could easily switch to the more stable one. The competition should help keep both governments honest. Lord knows they need a check.
     
  5. I.F.salesman

    I.F.salesman New Member Past Donor

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    I suggest that lil mikes be taken into account if i may add to it i suggest that an opening of boarders between the two countries take place (not that they are entirely closed off) and a larger trade take place to strengthen the economies of both countries. I also suggest that the Government of at least one of the countries ( America) stop worrying about what other Nations are doing ( within reason of course) and focus of fixing its own problems so that the two nations could benefit from a growing economy.
     
  6. Beevee

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    Of course it would work. If Canadians accepted that the head of state was the American President.

    I have an alternative. That the President of the combined union be the Canadian Prime Minister.

    There we are. Done and dusted. Dead in the water. End of story. Move on everybody.
     
  7. mikezila

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    if there are two countries more alike already, could someone point them out too me?

    if Canada should happen to break up, we'd be more than willing to admit the provinces on a case by case basis. i don't see it in the future, but it could happen quite smoothly.
     
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    I am only in agreement if I can build an arsenal of deadly weapons or alternatively all Americans relinquish their licences.

    On the other hand, what if America breaks up????????????????????
     
  9. mikezila

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    Michigan is already overrun with Canuks...shoppers, gamblers, truck drivers and strippers, but they're still Canadian. if both collapsed i could see the Great Lakes Region forming it's own country.
     
  10. Beevee

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    I suppose it could have it's uses. When stopped for minor traffic infringements, perhaps we wouldn't have to spend a night in jail because America refuses that we pay our fines with a debit or credit card.
     
  11. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    wut? i've never gotten a ticket they wouldn't let me mail in....and i've gotten a lot of them. :blushes:
     
  12. Beevee

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    Didn't show them a Canadian drivers licence though, did you.
     
  13. mikezila

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    maybe if you hadn't signed yours in crayon???
     
  14. Beevee

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    So you don't believe me? I wonder why?
     
  15. disgruntled_water watcher

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    Lil Mike,

    As far as currency issues, could we not adopt similar measures as other nations? china and Russia have already begun to make exclusive trade agreements utilizing their own currencies vice dollars. It would seem such Sino-Russian cooperation's motivation is perhaps to destabilize the dollar.

    With that, could there not be a similar cooperation between the United States and Canada to help maintain the dominance of the dollar?

    I.F.,

    I don't believe a universal government between the two would be possible. Fact is the States and Canada are two culturally separate nations. While yes, we share common lineage and are already partners militarily and economically, bottom line is canadians would refuse to be governed by an american and vice versa. Ultimately no one would be willing to sacrifice sovereignty to the other.

    as far as border issues. this would again raise the issue of sovereignty, but that aside, there would be numerous factors to cope with, from trade, to vehicle traffic, not to mention dealing with the various less than legal activities that take place on international borders.

    Long story short, I would like to see a closer relationship between the U.S. and Canada, but as I'm a realist, I don't believe it would be a likely occurrence
     
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    i know it use to happen in OH, but i didn't think you'd been in the country that long....they'd take your license and mail it back when you paid your fine...then the state police started carrying credit card machines but i haven't heard of that since debit cards rolled out.
     
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    I'm kinda jumping into this late. I don't see a need or positive result in a unification big enough to clear the animosity it would bring. I'm not going to insult Canada like the others because I think they have been good allies to the US, at least after the war of 1812. I also like the idea that they would take the initial confrontation with the Russians should they ever attack giving us time to make enough illegal Mexicans citizens so they can join the army and fight for us. Maybe they could train those giant-ass mooses to attack in formation while they throw snowballs from a snow fort. They could talk in French over the radios to confuse the Russkies. Sorry, my imagination has got the better of me.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    China and Russia do want to unseat the dollar as the world's reserve currency. But I'm not sure it's a model that we could emulate with Canada.
     
  19. Beevee

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    You do realise that first and foremost, the Russians will see Palin through her window - from the porch.
     
  20. The_Mailman

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    It is a possibility for our contries to converge but I dont believe that enough people in either countries would go for it. It would help both countries in some ways and damage them in others. Besides, if we were going to join with Canada then why not do the same with Mexico? Half of the people there are trying to get over here anyway. just open the borders and assist the economy there and we will simply have more space for the American dream to grow.
     
  21. The_Mailman

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    Wouldnt it just make sense to open the borders completely between the US and Canada and even Mexico? We are wasting millions of dollars trying to keep everyone else out and they are crawling in the dirt trying to get in. If it is open both ways then econamy spreads from each country to another and helps each to ballance the other. This would either help help create a stable econamy or put us all in a huge amount of debt but its worth a shot.
     
  22. Albert Di Salvo

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    That is the theory behind the proposed North American Union.
     
  23. alpamis34

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    I believe the two countries can merge and it wont be any bad for any of them.The reason is each side has its peculiar strengths and when the unification is done,they will manage to blend them up and create a more powerful body in which the negative sides are counterbalanced by the strong specs of each other. Believe this integration would benefit US in a way that it would have more equal and fair wealth distribution.
     
  24. The_Mailman

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    Though there are so many benefits to a union, there are just too many people who are still against it because they are stupid and don't look at the benefit. Then again there are those people who understand the benefit but are simply too spiteful to provide any kind of assistance to the other countries. They believe that we souls isolate the US and close borders completely. Its a bit sad that there are so many of these people running our country.
     
  25. marauder

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    I had to make an account to call you propagandist clowns out. No Canadian wants to lose their sovereignty to unify with a corporate-banker state. America is simply in the pockets of the lobbyists and corporate interests.
     

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