Can You Be Addicted To Food?

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can you be addicted to food?

  1. no you cannot be addicted to food

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  2. yes you can be addicted to food

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  1. Thinker

    Thinker New Member

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    Durr da durr, no im kidding.
     
  2. DA60

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    Durr da durr?
     
  3. Thinker

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    It is usually accompinied with a crooked hand beating against my chest with a retarded look on my face, kinda hard to do that to my computer screen. Basicly i called you retarded, but i said i was joking.
     
  4. DA60

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    Oh.........
     
  5. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    You are trying to use that as a point not me, you tell me how many.

    Last year, a few of my friends took a notion to lose a lot of weight. It doesn't make me happy that my best friend did, because she is naturally big as her mother was naturally big and her daughter was naturally big. Of course she lost the weight to support her daughter. You know, the one who went to high school and was we suppose abused for being big and now she won't fookin eat at all.

    She was weighed a couple of weeks ago and told she's lighter than she's ever been. Few weeks before that, the hospital put a mark on the wall in front of her stomach and then marked the wall behind her back and measured it, she is 4 inches wide. She's 14 and taller than me, 4 inches wide and thinks she's fat.

    Her mother is now built like a stick, having lost weight through anxiety initially but now is deliberately losing it to gain credibility to be able to talk sense into her daughter. She'll not listen to her while she's big, as she appears to know nothing about dieting.

    That, I suppose is the other side of the coin and proof that food can involve addiction. Anorexia. Food related illness. Food is addictive, not eating is addictive. I read anorexia has the highest mortality rate of all mental illness.
     
  6. liberalminority

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    recently tried a cheesecake after many years and its amazing how many flashbacks and dreams i get from that first delicious bite, there is chemicals being released in brain like dopamine, serotinin, these are the same happy harmones released when someone does drugs

    this is not something that can simply be stopped by saying no it requires enhanced techniques like getting over other addictions.
     
  7. Thinker

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    It doesn't, it just requires self-control, just like how you controlled yourself from going and buying 20 cheesecakes after that.
     
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    You make it sound easy...it is not.

    And it totally depends on how much inner peace/strength/love you have.

    If you feel worthless and unloved (as most addicts do to varying extents) and the only thing that stops you from feeling so useless are the thing(s) you are addicted to...then to tell yourself 'just stop' is incredibly hard and ridiculously impractical.

    You try and kiss goodbye the one thing that makes you feel good without having anything/anyone to replace it?

    It's nothing to do with self-control - like 'I WILL stop NOW'. Everyone knows addictions are bad for you.

    It's basically wanting to stop being larger then wanting to continue. And that just happens or it doesn't. Which is why rehab's work for so few people permanently. Other people cannot take away the pain inside you that is causing you to run to addictions. You have to do that. And if you cannot do that, then the addiction will probably continue...even if you want to stop - which makes you feel even worse about yourself and makes you want to 'use' again even more and so on and so on....

    People that have never had addictions can NEVER understand fully.

    It's like anything - you cannot know unless you have been through it.
     
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    Its not easy, i know that, as i said it just requires discipline and self control, and a food addiction is much different than a addiction to uh, hmm, Meth or crack. Unlike those two food doesn't release a hormone that makes your brain crave it excessively. Plenty of people feel unloved, or depressed, sometimes i feel that way, but im a philosopher, im supposed to feel that way i guess.
     
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    Basically im calling the people who get addicted to food, undisciplined, with no self-control, im not talking about people who are fat, although this could apply to a lot of them, im talking about people who eat because of some emotional matter which is just stupid.
     
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    Of course you can say no. I was in McDonalds tonight, after karate class. I wanted a burger, some nuggets, a drink, and an icecream sundae.
    But I stopped myself and gt the burger and drink instead. You know what? It wasn't hard at all, and with the money I have saved, I will more to spend on Sunday at the Australian Open..
     
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    did buy three more actually, the only thing that stopped future purchases was pain

    but each day brings new chains and shackles its a devastating disease once someone succumbs to it
     
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    And why did you stop yourself?
     
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    Liberalminority, or should I say American Dreamer (yeah I always knew), if you (or anyone else here) want to lose weight, start a thread or a group about healthy living.

    Might as well give it a go, while we're here anyway. I have a bit of knowledge, women are always fighting that fight :mrgreen: I know there are people here who have lost a lot of weight and there are people who want to lose it.

    I don't ascribe to the blame game. You do have to want it and commit to it, but if you make it fun and take the right attitude and have some good support, I'm sure anyone here can alter eating habits. It's not rocket science.
     
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    Exactly.In fact many skinny guys are addicted to junk food which
    are empty calories and may even cause weight loss.Depending on
    the junk food.Loading up on cheetos or doritos and skipping dinner
    could result in weight loss.
    Eating a hearty home cooked meal with bread and starches and
    meat and potatoes and gravy is a real belly expander.
    Yet that is the kind of meal I prefer.
     
  16. liberalminority

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    i could have only stopped at the nuggests, but after a burger and drink no one should deny themself dessert it doesn't feel satisfying at the end of a meal without some sugar to relax during digestion
     
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    I had icecream at home, so there was no need to buy any, and even if I had none, how would you pay the bills if you spent all your money on rubbish?
     
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    I'm a retired chef and I was in the business for 35 years..I worked only at French and Italian restaurants in all those years..some of the best of the best..
    at home I only cook simple bistro meals or peasant food..
    I'm 6'2 weigh 185 and I'm 57..I love greasy foods and only cook with butter, heavy cream, corn oil and olive oil..I'm famous for my homemade fried chicken and Pizza..
    I've spent the past 10 years perfecting my Pizza dough and have a special pizza oven and a woodburning oven..I've had pizza all over the world and very few compare to mine..I make a mean greasy taco and fried fatty pig skin is like candy for me..
    the whole secret is quality, not quantity..
    you eat crap your body turns to crap..
    if you eat fast food, chips and pre made store bought stuff don't come crying to me..
    it's called being lazy and not making the effort to cook at home with good ingredients..it's so simple to make bread at home, a pot of rice or beans and fry up some meat and in 30 minutes dinner is ready..a simple salad is to easy..it drives me nuts that they have these pre made salads at the supermarket now..have you ever read the ingredients in those pre made dressings:puke:
    prost!
     
  19. Viv

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    I would agree with most of that. Quality not quantity is really important. Since we started taking time to cook and made a kind of hobby out of it, food is more enjoyable and you're not hungry after you eat something made from scratch. It seems to stay with you longer and register more in the brain that you ate something decent.

    Apart from that I feel great. I think the quality of food must be impacting on other unexpected levels.

    I bake bread now and was thinking of taking a crack at pizza dough or pasta. If you have a non-patented (!) non fattening recipe, it would be much appreciated. :-D

    And know your comments may affect someone...Foolardi tripped a switch in my small brain a few months back by pointing out eating is a basic function we all require to do and it is fundamental that an adult should have a good knowledge of how to cook well. It's part of taking care of oneself and taking responsibility. I think he is right and decided to have a go, as my education had a big gaping hole in this area.

    It is really enjoyable to come in and potter about in the kitchen. The whole family likes it, the social aspect and I think it makes the home a really much happier place. And the aesthetics of eating delicious food cooked from scratch make life so much better overall.

    However...:mrgreen:...to say it is laziness for people not to cook from scratch seems a bit harsh as there are many reasons not to. How did you come to be cooking? Did you choose to cook? How did you learn? Was it your job? And if you had taken a different job, are you likely to be cooking everything from scratch now?
     
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    it could be a problem for those with bills agreed
     
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    viv agree there is no way to spend time cooking from scratch, its best to eat out as most are too busy to make a meal at home these days

    unfortunately eating out is hard to get healthy foods , the corporations should sell more healthy things for people on the go
     
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    People dont want healthy, they want tasty, which bring us back to the point of self-control and the topic of the debate.
     
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    I baked some chocolate chip cookies being in the house what with the snow and ice...and dang it, I think i am addicted to the darn things!!!

    :mrgreen:
     
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    Thats different! Chocolate chip cookies have like, crack in them or something! There is a cookie monster gene in everybody!
     
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    All of the unemployed are 'to busy' to cook their own meals?
     

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