Colo Springs nightclub shooting- stopped by bystanders

How does a gun cause a crime?

 

Bladed weapons are used to commit an order of magnitude more homicides than rifle.

 

Yes, I know....so let's not ban (some) rifles without also banning knives, ey? That's your point, yes?

 

THIS KEEPS HAPPENING: Another ‘Known Wolf’ – The Colorado Springs Shooter Should Have Been in Prison.

Felon-friendly - dripping hatred and disdain for the law-abiding.

The Authoritarians within the Left immediately dance in the blood of the victims to smear law-abiding Americans while other elements of the Left do not enforce existing laws on criminals, leaving them armed and able to continue their crime sprees against innocent law-abiding Americans.



'What does someone have to do in Colorado Springs to be arrested, prosecuted and tossed in jail. A lot, it seems, but making a bomb threat that results in the evacuation of a neighborhood and being charged with felony kidnapping don’t seem to be enough to bring the law down on you.'

'A year and a half before he was arrested in the Colorado Springs gay nightclub shooting that left five people dead, Anderson Lee Aldrich allegedly threatened his mother with a homemade bomb, forcing neighbors in surrounding homes to evacuate while the bomb squad and crisis negotiators talked him into surrendering.'

This was followed by no charges, no activation of red flag laws that would have allowed confiscation of his weapons.

'Those are some terribly inconvenient facts that aren’t being allowed to get in the way of a torrent of calls from' opportunistic 'politicians and gun control advocates as they — once again — waive the bloody shirt and call for more gun control laws.'

Terrible people.

 

So you are against gun control laws but are upset that red flag laws didn’t prevent this?

I wonder if his grandfather being a Republican legislator played any role?

 

tell us what gun control law will deter someone not deterred by the consequences of committing mass murder. I have never ever had an anti gun poster ever even attempt to explain this

 

Fake News. I'm not against reasonable regulation. Regulate means "to make regular" it does not mean "prohibit'.

Not just red flag laws, how about felony charges for a bomb?

If you have a claim to make, make it.

 

Because it is deliberately cute, smart arze question. No gun control or any other law is going to stop a determined law breaker, but if you had serious gun laws, you could make it a whole lot harder for the law breaker to get his hands on one.

 

He has no claim to make. He has a genuine question to ask. How is it possible for an arzehole like this bloke with his violent history NOT to be red flagged? Could it be because he has a connected grandpa? That at least makes sense.

 

More on the grandfather:

 

Think about those 2 statements….

A knife can be the cause of a crime, but a gun can’t………got it.

 

Hmm, all them gun laws in Colorado did zero to stop this.

 

If it did it was more the "grandfather" part than anything.

 

Prolly your statement makes not sense. If one set of laws did nothing to stop him then how would another set of laws be effective. Banning guns is stupid.....period.

 

No it would not. You would only make law abiding citizens sitting ducks.

 

How about not banning anything? That is a dumb idea.

 

So let's ban all guns except rifles. happy now?

 

I did not address you. Do you think your mate needs help?

My statement makes absolute sense.

NO LAW will bring crime to a halt, do you agree?

However, a law restricting access to guns DOES have a huge impact on gun deaths, as happened down here.

 

You mean like those law abiding citizens in that night club?

 

Honestly, short of a complete prohibition on their sale or a very tightly controlled supply there isn’t much. Both of these work because we have seen the results in other nations.

Had red flag laws worked for this case then he would have likely just taken one from his family or bought one second hand.

The largest issue is how easy it is to get a weapon and until that changes the black market and secondary sales remain.

Do any of you have any solution besides do nothing?

 

Thank goodness a veteran was there to take the assailant out. Apparently, the assailant has had a vast history of crime and should have been arrested many moons ago. It also shows that red flag laws just do not work unless enforced. Especially after the amount of crimes this bigot had committed prior to this.

 

Yep, Colorado law prevents law abiding citizens from CC in clubs.

 

A knife has never been the cause of a crime. Neither has a gun.

 

that's nonsense. you cannot compare societies that never had many guns to start with before restrictions were imposed over ones where there are 400 million guns.

 

yeah, make it easier for citizens to defend themselves. Deny violent felons recourse to civil suits if they are shot while committing a crime. Enforcing Malum Per Se offenses more strictly while stopping the waste of police resources on malum prohibitum offenses that mainly harass honest people.