Coronavirus now leading cause of death in US

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  1. Shonyman32

    Shonyman32 Well-Known Member

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    All flu related deaths and pneumonia have been labeled under coronavirus deaths.

     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Another statistical brain trust heard from. No wonder how you lot get your defective understanding of the world around you.

    Ironically, the 9/11 example makes an apt analogy for our purposes. If one were to claim on 9/11 "Wow, plane crashes into skyscrapers have now surpassed heart disease and cancer as causes of death in the U.S." that person would me a total buffoon on the one hand or a purposeful liar on the other, no "c" answer.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    With stories like this, it's easy to understand why the numbers are off and the fear factor is greatly enhanced.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid...of-deceased-patients-who-were-never-e/5709299
     
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    Heart disease and cancer patients regularly die while acutely infected with something.
    That's how it works
     
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    Fake news meant to foment panic.
    Heart attacks kill 1,740 per day averaged over the entire year. The article is talking about one day or at most one week of the peak of an epidemic. Averaged over a year Covid will be in lower risk factors for dying.

    Leading causes of death Americans
    Number of deaths for leading causes of death. Heart disease: 635,260. Cancer: 598,038. Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374. Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 154,596. Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 142,142. Alzheimer’s disease: 116,103. Diabetes: 80,058.
    FastStats - Leading Causes of Death
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Yes, but without social distancing we were facing the possibility of up to 2.2 million dead.
     
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    Up to half the population has preexisting conditions.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's still misleading my friend.

    For the majority of souls lost over the past weeks, and those passing in the coming weeks, death from Covid-19 is an acceleration in a trajectory already determined. Their disease progression and naturally yet irreversibly weakened status had/has their remaining life measured, with hope, in weeks perhaps months, but not in seasons. I'm speaking here of those advanced in age at the end of an inexorable path determined by the laws of nature.

    Here in Vermont deaths attributed to Covid-19 have, save one, been geriatric residents of skilled nursing homes. I'm seeing the similar reports in the Health Department statistics from other states that list age and institutional status.

    These are natural deaths. The honest cause of death will be re-coded in the coming months as clarity returns to our collective consciousness.

    To test the veracity of my thoughts an observations, look at the fatality rates for the impacted cohorts month on month in the coming months. We'll see an equally dramatic drop in fatalities in the older age groups a few month out and year on year rates will fall in the normal range.
     
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    I'm glad you don't work in or study statistics, medicine, or public health. Your claim is 100% false.
     
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    And without seatbelts in cars even more deaths? Your point is?
     
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    Are the patients in ICU “fake news”?

    Are the exhausted and overworked healthcare personnel “fake news”?

    Are the mass burials on Hart Island “fake news?
     
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    Really?
     
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    The misleading statistics are fake news. Corona may be the leading cause of death in America for a day or even a week but over the course of the year it will be an also ran.
     
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    A year's time is not relevant now. It might become so but the statistics now are what matter.
     
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    But does that mean we dismiss the efforts put in to save lives? That we do not mourn for the lost lives?
     
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    The last time I died it was pretty much painless, thought of Porky Pig, "that's all folks," because I wanted my last words to be funny, saw the white light, died. Poof, back alive.

    Dying from this tiny monster, don't wish that on anyone.

    So, hell yeah, stay safe everyone.
     
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    I don't agree with everything he said, but I -really- want to find out if what he says about the flu and pneumonia deaths suddenly disappearing as recorded deaths during these covid times is true. I tried finding numbers on the CDC website for the last few months, but didn't find anything.
     
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    When is the last time the seasonal flu was the leading cause of death for even one day?
     
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    The plummeting instance of pneumonia deaths are graphed all over the net in various places, but I am unaware of official sources, personally I no longer consider the CDC, WHO, socialist or quasi socialist governments, or any other federal bureaucracy as an "official source" of anything these days, but that's just me.

    The CDC scam of classifying anything that is remotely related or possibly described as COVID was right on their page, probably still there, I have linked it here in several threads, and real doctors and real scientists are all over youtube up in arms about it. Here is another set of damning CDC data, not the "coding scam," but IMO just as bad.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

    The real takeaway of the above chart is how COVID is minimized statistically in comparison to all deaths during the period versus how it is exaggerated by media, shills, etc.
     
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    Burials on that Island are not new.....
     
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    The rate is, though. It's normally 25 / week. Now they are doing 25 / day.

    You can't tell the difference? When is the last time a city needed make-shift morgues to handle the volume? When is the last time the seasonal flu was the leading cause of death for even one day?
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    What do you think people with significant heart and lung disease die from? They get a little cold that tops them over the edge
     
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    Only the most severe are likely to lead to death from the virus.
     
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