Dare I suggest gun reform?

Thankyou. Any laws that would severely restrict the number of bullets fired within such short timeframes. I could be wrong on this but a rifle is commonly used for hunting. A handgun for personal protection. I'd suggest handguns be limited to 6 bullets eg S&W38 AND rifles allowed be limited to one action per round eg I owned a winchester that needed one action for each bullet.

 

so what you intend to do with the other 300 millions + firearm that has high capacity mag, semi and currently in a lot lawful citizens? force them to hand over?

 

Since your nation has it all figured out, tell us how to fix Mexico, that has gun control laws vastly more restrictive than yours?

"More than 53,000 people have been murdered in Mexico in the last six years—most of them by a variety of pistols, rifles, and assault weapons owned by Mexican drug cartels. While the exact number of firearms in circulation in Mexico eludes everyone, we know tens of thousands are seized every year by Mexican authorities.

Contrary to popular belief, Mexico’s constitution has its own version of our Second Amendment. However, few private citizens own firearms. Federal laws have severely restricted the ability to own and carry weapons to soldiers, police, trained bodyguards, and a few others who can make it through the miles-long gauntlet of the application process. If a Mexican citizen can survive the background checks, the mountains of paperwork, the half-dozen required personal recommendations, and the expense, they are limited to buying guns with low stopping power.

There is also only one gun shop in Mexico where they can legally purchase firearms, and it’s in Mexico City—not exactly a close drive for many Mexicans."
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/mexico-proves-strict-gun-laws-won’t-prevent-massacres/

 

Well there is an alternative to handing them over...more mass shootings. Are you ok with that?

 

We havent got everything figured out. Thats an over reaction. But I thankyou for the rest of your informative post.
As said, I resign to the fact that the law cant be changed but maybe modified. What the hell do you need a machine gun for? Other than what that crazy guy used them for? I dont care about Mexico.

 

Something other countries will never fully understand is that guns are part of american culture and to us represent freedom and ability to defend ourselves without depending on government to defend us. We're funny like that.

 

Good comment.
Im suggesting some types if guns be banned, the type that makes it easy to mass killings before people can escape.

 

I agree that this is what Americans think and believe about gun ownership, its party of the mythology of guns and being an American. Of course like all good yarns, its total baloney. The shooter was stopped by the government not by some pistol packing yahoo with a Duck Dynasty hat.

 

The more freedom you take away the safer society is but do you want to live in a country where there are curfews and no warrant searches and bugged telephones etc etc? You have to draw the line somewhere in the freedom vs safety debate. I draw it at gun ownership.

 

Full auto is already illegal in this country as are sawed off shotguns

 

Cops did a great job in this instance but crimes like this are few and far between. Most crime is one on one with robberies and home invasions and cops show up after that happens not during. In most cases of crime you are on your own and a gun comes in very handy.

 

Semi automatic (eg trigger for each round) should be also. And round quantities in handguns too....max 6

 

That's where the slippery slope comes into play. First six then one.

 

Lets face it, the law wont be changed. So an alteration. Do you need more than 6 bullets in a handgun for protection? If a full chamber of 6 was all the bullets allowed on possession and in a car then the amendment stands. And only allow single round per loading action on rifles. No semi autos

 

Even if my suggestion became law the law would be broken often . It would need to be enforced and heavy jail time.

 

Your opinion is breaking news?

The murder rate in Australian since these anti-gun laws has fallen LESS than it has fallen in the USA - and if you removed anti-gun law cities like Chicago - USA murder rate has fallen DRAMATICALLY lower than it has in Australia - leading to the FACT that Australia's anti-gun laws are getting people murdered.

In addition, no one mentions that murder rates skyrocketed in Australia until Australia nearly doubled the number of police, and even then the USA murder rate has declined MUCH lower than it has declined in Australia. Nor has the number of guns in Australia declined. Instead, Australia defines millions of its citizens as criminals who have not yet been caught.

Of course, the left ignores murder rates in this comparison, only "mass shootings," because if ALL murder rates are considered the fact is that Australia's anti-gun laws have gotten people murdered.

 

You mean only people who follow laws should have such restrictions, while criminals continue to have anything they want.

 

You mentioned that firearms related suicides was down since the gun ban. My point was that is irrelevant since total numbers of suicides did not decrease. People just found other ways to kill themselves.

 

I sometimes hunt muzzleloader season and you get bonus points if you do that with extra hunting time in the form of early and late seasons. Most people want extra shots in case they miss or wound an animal so you'd be hard pressed to pass that law. Duck hunting is another time you need more rounds. You can wait a long time for ducks to show up at your decoys and you want to be able to shoot more than one. Americas hunting culture is something you probably won't understand.

 

I didnt claim I was breaking news just asking why America cant go about some gun reform. A minefield of a subject but damn...those poor people!

 

Im experienced with some guns. The trade off, if I understand you correctly, is, your need to rapid fire(semi auto) on ducks is of greater importance to saving human lives?
That mentality is the culture flaw of gun lovers.

 

So, what you are claiming is that prior to this law Australians committed suicide by shooting themselves 40 times, but since they can only shoot themselves 6 times suicide is no longer possible. That is your claim and logic, correct? Suicide doesn't happen unless a firearm holds more than 6 bullets.

Since this is your claim, give any example of a person committing suicide by shooting him/herself 30 times. Or admit your logic is pure nonsense.

Please explain to us why you apparently decided you can't be trusted with more than a single shot rifle?

 

And which laws would you suggest to repeal in a compromise?

 

You quoted me but my quote had zero to do with suicide. Please read the whole thread

 

You put your message on the breaking news thread apparently wanting to be at the top of the board, rather than on the opinion board. Did you ever bother to read the rules of this board and forum?

We know from countries, cities and states that outlawing high capacity rifles does NOT stop mass shootings or acts of terrorism. The highest murder rates are in cities with the strictest anti-gun laws in the USA because they only disarm good citizens and enable violent criminals.

If you are right, why have USA murder rates fallen at a higher rate than in Australia?