Demographic change in vaccinated people, and reasons to drop hesitancy

The data is there. I don't see how that means the left if lying. Especially if one is independently thinking.

 

The only science those people know is to ignore anyone who disagrees with them and push politics despite total absurdities.

 

that is a fuzzy math.

 

Leftists are pushing vaccine to people who already had COVID.

 

I hope you aren't serious. LOL. That is about as simple as math gets. LOL.

 

may be.
but, you have to take number of deaths correctly.
It should be counted from 03/2021 to present.
i.e. not ~700,000 but roughly ~200,000
you have to also include people who has died from COVID after vaccination.
that might be very well greater then 8000

 

No. I don't have to fudge numbers. I just posted the actual numbers.

What is your purpose to fudge them?

 

but those are fuzzy math.
you are taking COVID-19 data for almost 2 years and comparing it with about 6 months of vaccine data.
that is statistically incorrect.

 

It was the stats of number of Americans that died due to covid.

 

Whatever,
you are the one who do not believe that leftists are lying to the public.
And you the one who is pushing the authoritarian agenda by providing a fuzzy math as justification for authoritarianism.

 

Oh I've read that stuff too. I am not quite as impressed with those arguments as you may be. The last place I want to be as a lawyer, is defending the decisions a corporate Human Resources agent made, regarding which of these cases reflects a 'sincere religious belief' and which do not by any of those arbitrary methods.

The Delta angle is avoids that trap but if they claim there are no 'working assignments appropriate, well then there had better not be any 'working assignments' available under careful scrutiny of a very motivated litigator! That makes one wonder about the business model for running their airline before these vaccines were available.
If Delta now claims so many unsafe assignments for the unvaccinated with all those rules of social distancing and mask -wearing and screening available now in this lawsuit, one wonders if they were claimed to be 'safe working assignments' before there was this vaccine with all those same rules on mask-wearing and social distancing in another potential lawsuit. Somehow they managed to fly a lot of planes before that vaccine was widely available. Who's lives are they admitting they endangered with all these unsafe assignments being staffed?

Now remember, its not ultimately about winning the suit, its harming its reputation and some very ugly press sufficient to make them want to write a check.

 

That's quite an unhinged post you did there. LOL.

 

Interesting. Are you a lawyer? I'll defer to you on this. You seem to know a lot more about it than I do. I'm no lawyer.

 

No I am the son of a lawyer, a former DA, a law professor who worked as a 'substitute judge' during summer break while the judges went on vacation. My 'law classes' were held at the dining room table while I ate meatloaf. I am not saying what you heard/ read was wrong, I am saying its not that cut and dried. This ends up being more complicated in practice . A corporation really has to be invested in this decision, because they are going to have to be very consistent, very careful in applying this policy. The law is 'on their side' but the trapdoors may not be and opposing council is going to work very hard on the floorboards with a crowbar to open them up.

 

You are probably right. I know of a hospital that just accepted all religious exemptions, with the Risk Department being of the opinion that the likely litigation that would ensue if they challenged the claims, wasn't worth it. But if a corporation wants to fight hard like Delta Airlines seems to be willing to do, I think they will ultimately prevail, but many other corporations may just feel that it's too much trouble.

 

Why did you OMIT all of those who are SUFFERING from the very severe adverse reactions to being INFECTED with Covid?

Want to bet that those will not GREATLY OUTNUMBER the adverse reactions to the vaccines?

The vaccines are not perfect but they are 100 TIMES better than being INFECTED with the virus.

 

That is DISINGENUOUS misinformation!

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

The Anaphylaxis is treated and has no LASTING impact.

Only 49 people have experienced thrombosis which DOES have a lasting impact.

210 have experienced GBS which MIGHT have a lasting nerve damage impact.

Myocarditis and pericarditis totals 1,541.

So a grand TOTAL of 1,800 people have LASTING severe adverse medical reactions to the vaccines.

That is LESS than a QUARTER of the people who have DIED as result of the vaccines.

FACTS matter!

 

As long as people know that you are pushing nothing but leftist authoritarian agenda we are ok.

 

As I said, they have not even admitted that over 8000 people have died from the vaccines. They continue lying by saying, "these people could have died from anything". They have also omitted the actual numbers of the tens of thousands of people who have had very serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, hiding those numbers in formulas that have to be figured out, thereby tricking the very people they are pushing to get vaccinated. The left also lie in claiming that the vaccines will stop the spread of the virus when the vaccines do nothing to stop the spread of Delta. They also lie about mask effectiveness, not telling us that the types of masks most people wear are only about 10% effective. The left also misinform people by saying over 700,000 people have died from Covid instead of saying that only .2% have died from Covid.

 

I want the WHOLE truth to be known. The left purposely misinform and lie to the public to further their vaccination drive and I'm making up for their lies. I'm perfectly fine with telling ALL of the facts from both sides and letting people make informed decisions, without being forced, coerced, tricked, intimidated, bullied, or fired from their jobs for not conforming to the leftist misinformation. Will you join me in this?

 

What a bunch of bullshit. Over 8000 people have died from the vaccines. Surely you're not saying that far less have severe adverse reactions to the vaccines than who die from the vaccines? Is that what you are trying to say?

 

Given the endless CONSPIRACIES and LIES spewed by the RIGHT with regard to the vaccines and masks YOUR feigned OUTRAGE rings hollow.

Sad!

 

Those are the FACTS that are AVAILABLE on the CDC website.

Take it up with them!

 

The media blackout of the success in the Utter Pradesh region of India is over. They tried something different and it was wildly successful. With only around 11% vaccinated and 5% fully vaccinated they have declared to have beaten Covid. This is a population of 241 million. They did what experts testifying to Congress said we should do but that advice was ignored.

Utter Pradesh went door to door and passed out kits that included Ivermectin along with zinc, vitamin D3 and other various vitamins along with doxycycline. The kit also included things like gloves, masks, and an oxy meter. No reports of any adverse reaction to Ivermectin.

This was a program sponsored by the WHO.

 

Yes a survey of around 1500 people..

Like most "polls" or "surveys" that are looking for an outcome they overweigh "independents".. Again as i kept pointing out if this country was truly 40+% "independent" we would not be locked into a 2 party system

Your Survey has

Democrats at 458
Republicans 345
Independents 489

Leaving out 227 people as their total is 1519... No game playing here nope /wink
An example of this ( not scientific i know ) look at this forum. Full of politically active people.. Now how many people here claim they are "Independent" or "progressive" and will scream the the heavens they are not a " Democrat".
https://www.kff.org/report-section/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-september-2021-methodology/

Or did you as an "expert on reading data" not even bother to look at the methodology?