Do you understand why people vote for Donald Trump?

Brits and Yanks create more co2 per capita than a Chinaman

 

I did mention planned obsolescence didn't I?

Who is dumb enough to buy so much garbage?

The Waste Makers (1960) Vance Packard

 

There's another word for "conspiracy theories." It is, "Spoilers".

 

I have pointed out before right-wingers have a documented difficulty with ambiguity. Things must be either black or white, as in "you're either a cult member or a nihilist." The only cult on here are the followers of the incompetent lying sociopath....the orange messiah.

I beg your pardon, "Spoilers" are Trump supporters.

 

see now you're contradicting yourself you can't be a nihilist and also in a cult of those two things are mutually exclusive.

I don't think the concept of overhauling our government means I'm nihilist. nihilists would be setting it on fire electing a president through the proper means of doing it that you don't like isn't burning the system down it's just democracy sometimes doesn't go your way.

 

Well. We are trying to expose the uniparty's agenda. Appears to be working.
Good piece today:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gwaWTtlM5bg/

 

There is only one party in US politics. It has two faces in order to keep Americans divided against eachother over silly pointless issues so that we don’t look too closely at who is pulling all the strings.

 

Exactly this.

The political elite MUST maintain the divide amongst the people, because if they don't then the people can unite against the corruption and graft that is pervasive in DC. And, they do a really, really good job of nurturing that divide.

 

Thanks for making my point. Trouble with ambiguity. What rule says you can't be a nihilist and a cultist? One you made up.
You voting for someone who gives the finger to all those "clowns" (and that is his only qualification you value) is hyperbolic pessimism and a symptom of nihilism.

Okay, I could only take about 20 minutes of that. No wonder he "left" academia (or did it leave him) because his agenda is not supported by facts. Religiosity is not increasing. It is going down in all developed nations including the US. There is no "post secular" movement, except among the far right Christian nationalists, which is anti-American. He goes on to discredit and cast doubt in the democratic process. A process put in doubt only because of the Big Lie, not because of any facts. Was the 2016 election "rigged" as well or why wasn't it? He then goes on about being for basically the dissolution of the United States and then I had enough of this loon.

A conspiracy theorist nihilist....can more be added?

 

I am not the topic of this thread. Got anything other than ad-hom fallacies?

 

Uh, you are the topic of this thread, and as I alluded to earlier, there many shades of orange. And as fallacies go, you have demonstrated your nihilism and conspiracy theory. Do you want quotes?

 

English. The two words are mutually exclusive

I didn't make up the definition of either one of those words maybe you should learn what we're doing before you use them.

well I would be voting for someone who seeks to change those things in his qualifications is he succeeded last time.

 

I could see the secular Left going extinct while the religious are having babies. Remember, Prince Charming is a weird weird stalker!!!

 

This seems a job, for dictionary quotes:

<Snip>
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
ni·hil·ist
noun
a person who believes that life is meaningless and rejects all religious and moral principles.
"it is impossible to argue against a nihilist"
<End>


<Snip>

cultist
noun

: a member of a cult: such as
a
: a devotee or member of a religious cult
In 1826 … Shakers were persecuted as cultists distinguished by their use of dance in worship, their celibacy and their belief in their founder, Mother Ann, as equal to Jesus.
—Robert Minkoff
b
: one who exhibits great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, etc.
… at a time when the Kinks don't even have an American record deal, it's heartening for aging Kinks cultists that Ray Davies has found a domestic publisher for X-Ray: The Unauthorized Autobiography, a book that was published in England last year.
—David Wild
Although Pierce has seen reruns of the actress's films, he insists he is not a [Marilyn] Monroe cultist.
—David Wallace
If the paranoid cultists and survivalists are right, and the apocalypse is right around the corner, who do we want leading the nation through the pestilence, famine and plagues of locusts?
—Sparkle Hayter
<End>


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cultist

How are those words "mutually exclusive?" So, you are saying, it would be impossible for a cult follower of the rock band, the Kinks, in the first sentence example (under "b") to also believe that life is meaningless, and to reject all religious & moral principles? There seems no logical connection to back your argument, that anyone who is greatly devoted to a particular person or idea, cannot also be devoid of moral and religious principles, or feel that life is meaningless.

Change need not necessarily mean improvement. In fact, change could just as likely be for the worse. Hence, the mere fact that someone represents change, is hardly a good reason to put him in charge of the country.

Unless, I guess, ultimately, nothing really matters.

 

Here's your new theme song (play loud)

 

It is not that hard to understand. When you have no alternative to vote for, you hold your nose, and vote. At this point in the cycle Trump leads the Republican pack and Biden leads the Democrat pack. At present a third choice hasn't been selected. So now, one has to look at the Pros and Cons of these two candidates. It is just a matter of what you believe. You have all these court cases against Trump and it seems the press is trying to convict him in the court of public opinion. Biden is being accused of bribery with his family and an impeachment inquiry is being considered. Neither one of them has had their day in court. In the tradition of America one is innocent until proven guilty.

That said, one needs to look at the policies of each man or party. Let us just consider a few.

Immigration: Biden believes in open unregulated borders. Trump believes in closed regulated borders.

Labor : Biden believes in Closed shop union labor. Trump believes in Right To Work Laws.

Abortion: Biden believes in Abortion at any stage of pregnancy controlled by the Federal government. Trump believes in limited State controlled Abortion.

Race: Biden believes in race classification and demonizes all whites who do not agree with his policies. Trump believes all those born in America are Americans.

LBGQT - Biden believes all LBGQT people should have special rights. Not a real liberal stance. Trump believes that men are men and woman are woman depending on their biological birth and not on their feelings.

Energy - Biden believes in windmills and solar panels and the elimination of all fossil fuels. Trump believes in energy independence which includes Nuclear power, Gas and Oil, Solar and Wind.

Education - Biden believes in teachers rights over parents' rights. He also has no problem with Transgender rights over students' rights. Trump believes in parents rights over teachers rights on the education of their children in the areas of morals.

Foreign Policy - Biden has an incoherent policy on foreign affairs. Trump is more of an isolationist in his foreign policies.

Business - Biden is a strong proponent on regulation of industry and what products are good or bad for Americans. Trump is pro-business and relaxing onerous regulations that impede jobs.

 

Trolling is, apparently, your only shtick. Do you want quotes?

I am not the topic of this thread. The mindset of the people who will vote for Trump is.

As for me, I have merely offered my opinion as to the mindset of people who will vote FOR Donald Trump. They want someone who will drain the stinking DC swamp, nothing more. THAT is the topic of this thread. I will not be voting FOR Donald Trump. I will, however, be voting AGAINST Biden, or any other corrupt kabuki swamp puppet like him that the DNC rams through the primaries.

 

When all else fails, the Democrats have to break out the race card. I'm sure your tele won't give you this information but Biden's mentors were a couple of the most racist people in Congress. One of them even had belonged to the KKK. Did Biden vote against school busing while in Congress? Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.” "The new integration plans being offered are really just quota systems to assure a certain number of blacks, Chicanos, or whatever in each school," Biden told a Delaware newspaper in 1975. "That, to me, is the most racist concept you can come up with. Who the hell do we think we are, that the only way a black man or woman can learn is if they rub shoulders with my white child?"
Did Biden eulogize Robert Byrd the Ex KKK Grand Poo Poo at his funeral? In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

 

Neither of those 2 ever been indicted. Never been arrested. Never been brought up on charges. Either politically or in personal lives.

trump has a history prior to Jan 6 of breaking laws and stealing money from people and/or businesses.

His corrupt ways carried over into his politics.

People vote for him because he does represent those who are afraid the white centric hetero policies will or have slipped away.

 

Problem for trump on draining the swamp, is he fell below the swamp and he would be the 1st down the drain. As he was looking up at the swamp.

 

Please, pour the kool-aid down the drain. What would possibly make you think that white people voted for Trump on racial issues? If I was to vote on racial issues I would have voted for Biden.

 

You think trump did better than biden.
And UK did Brexit. How's that working out?

...
On 23 June 2016, Geoffrey Betts, the managing director of a small office supplies business in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, had high hopes for his firm, and the British economy, when he voted for Brexit.

“I thought we would be like … ‘here we go, here we go. We are going to become the most competitive country in Europe and we are going to be encouraging business.’ Now I think: ‘What have we done?’”


His firm, Stewart Superior, has survived, but not without major restructuring and huge efforts to get around obstacles that Brexit has put in the way of the export side of the business.

In late 2020 Betts decided there was no option but to set up a depot inside the EU single market – in the Netherlands – at considerable expense, to avoid costly delays in transit, mountains of Brexit-related paperwork at the border, and VAT issues when sending goods to customers on the continent.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...one-six-years-on-uk-counts-the-cost-of-brexit

 

DJT has always polled far better with black Americans than ordinary Republican politicians.
The DP still makes minorities and the thinking Left cringe.

"I watched the debate in Iowa here two weeks ago -- the all white debate -- and the fact that the Democratic, the DNC will not allow Cory Booker on that stage, will not allow Julian Castro on that stage, but they are going to allow Mike Bloomberg on the stage?" Moore roared. "Because he has a billion f*cking dollars!""
GRABIEN NEWS, MICHAEL MOORE: DNC LETTING BLOOMBERG ON THE STAGE BECAUSE ‘HE HAS A BILLION F*CKING DOLLARS’, By Tom Elliott, Jan 31, 2020.
https://news.grabien.com/story-michael-moore-dnc-letting-bloomberg-stage-because-he-has-bil

 

Labor : Biden believes in Closed shop union labor. Trump believes in Right To Work Laws.

Virtually no one believes or wants that. A non starter RW BS talking point not based in reality.

What race classification policy(s) can make this point of yours true?

NO one believes LGBTQ people need or should get special rights. Just the same rights all non LGBTQ people get, especially hetero ones.
Another RW BS nonsense point.

The end goal may be elimination of fossil fuels. That at best is still decades away. Everyone is looking at multi purpose alternatives. Except maybe Nuclear. If the waste problem could be solved, this seems the best route.

Again, no one is taking away parents rights. Another RW BS talking point. Especially transgender rights over all others. Heck they are less than 1% of a population. Most just want them to be treated equally as all others.

Isolationism is not realistic in today's global and technical environment.
One can be a leader, follower, or sit out the global economy. We have been the leader.

Some regulations are needed. Especially those affecting air, water, land quality.

 

Not a MAGA cult member. I don't drink kool-aid.
Most of MAGA are white. Most of MAGA were distraught when a black skin president won a 2nd term.
Most of MAGA are not white supremacists, but all white supremacists are MAGA.

Then there's the fact, R's simply won't vote easily for blacks.

...
When the new Congress comes into session in January, there will be more Black Republicans serving together on Capitol Hill than at any point since 1877.

The number? Five.
This number doesn’t include the impending results of a Dec. 6 runoff between Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock and Republican Herschel Walker in Georgia. If Walker, a Black man, is successful, the total number would increase to six.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...the-most-black-republicans-in-over-a-century/