Egyptian army slaughters protestors

ah you read Mahmoud

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oh a Californian just joined the debate

 

try again

 

Well, since you provided no link in the story, there's nothing in what little you posted that would link armed guards in Wisconsin to anything happening in Egypt unless one uses their imagination. As it appears now, it's an entirely unrelated set of circumstances. So I'll try again with "You posted this in the wrong thread."

 

George Washington

"The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest … The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim."

Wise words Mr Washington

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okay before you try a second time to figure out the link between it try reading the title of the thread a few times Snooki

 

Ramadan Kareem to all Egyptians and Muslims around the world fighting for freedom from Dictators and fanatical extremist lunatics and the USA regime

 

Well......we've put in a good word but frankly, you need to start being much more nice to the US if you want to see Aid from it, stop burning its flags for example,

I see you get all excited , I can understand why, but try to keep in mind that if we learned somthing from History is that the easiest thing for other countries to do - is nothing, simply stay away and take no sides, watch other ppl tear themselves apart, so I wouldnt get so confident and rude if I were you, Im sure your Generals are kissing alot of American butts these days.

 

No link, no answer, and a personal insult. That's all you have.

 

Same thing. In the US the country wanted an end to Bush's poison. Obama was the means.
The important point is that Egypt chose democracy. That's not to say that Egypt chose wisely. Egypt followed the corrupt Western model. I said at the time that Egypt had the opportunity to create a NEW form of order.

Morsi won. Morsi is Egypt's elected president. Shame on all those who chose democracy and then crapped upon it. You see, there can never ever be respect for Egyptian democracy again. To date, Egypt's model of democracy is to arrest its elected president during hard times and to shoot his supporters. You won't like that summary, I'm sure. Nevertheless, that's the reality.

 

Can't think of an intelligent response dike boy?

 

American law requires that all aid be cut off whenever a democratically elected govt. is overthrown by a military coup. It's the law...but Obama doesn't care what the law says. He just does whatever he wants. Obama is like Mubarak.

 

That's right, Albert, and it will be Washington Zionists who are currently instructing their tame Congressmen and Senators to ignore US law and continue paying bribe-monies to the coup instigators. Nobody benefits from the weakening of US law the Constitution like the Zionists do.


The US of AIPAC is also in a moral nutcracker of its own manufacture. It openly supported a coup against the elected government in Palestine. It openly supports a coup against the elected government in Syria. Why shouldn't it openly support a coup against the elected government of Egypt ? Oh yes, it's own laws. Thanks Albert. Everybody forgot about the law in the heat of attacking another bastion of anti-Zionism

WHO runs Washington ?

 

He was interviewed on the CBC (thank goodness for Sirius) yesterday. I find the CBC has way better news than any mainstream US media outlet.

 

Anybody remember Nicaragua ? It is not the slightest far-fetched to say that the country with the worst anti-democratic record in the world is............America.

 

Let's not forget that Morsy and his Islamist allies tried to hijack Egypt and turn it into an Islamist terrorist state, thanks to the Egyptian army that coup was thwarted.

 

Let's not forget that Obama tried to hijack America and give its sick people free healthcare. Why didn't the Marines arrest him and start shooting Democrats ?

 

actually it is completely far fetched, as history has proven time and again. I could recommend a few good books for you if you'd like to learn more about the emergence of democracy.


But don't let facts get in the way of your own bigotry.

 

That's just what I'd expect supporters of Washington Zionism to say. They don't like the light, do they.

 

Indeed but there is a level at which discussion becomes impossible!

Well now things are possibly coming a bit clearer today. Just been listening to Afhis Rattansi (don't know who he is but he sounds convincing) on RT. He is sure now that this was a coup and that Saudi Arabia is behind it. Their delight is expressed in Daily Beast yesterday

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/07/saudi-arabia-cheers-the-coup-in-egypt.html

With Afhis Rattansi it was the money offered which clinched it for him and money he does not expect the ordinary people to see sight of. To him the US is in on it as well, at the very least through being complicit, so today it is looking to me that there is a fair chance that the people who were blaming the Saudi's and the Americans were right!

sadly far from it in today's world but I won't stop fighting for human rights and social justice and knowledge of what the hell is going on!! Knowledge is power.

 

Giving free health care to the sick is a very religious good thing to do it is call charity every good Christian and Muslim does that. Helping the sick is a very patriotic duty and the US Marines fully support the policies of their commander in chief totally the oppossite of what the Muslim Brotherhood and Morsy were doing attempting to change Egypt into an Islamist terrorist State and Egyptians and their military totally reject Morsy's sinister plan to convert Egypt into an Islamist State.

Between chosing supporting a Washington Zionism and Islamist-Egypt no doubt it is better to support Washington Zionism and Egyptians have demonstrated clearly they do not want an Islamist Egypt.

 

it's an iron bearing ore...that being said, i get your point. firepower of that magnitude does seem to be overduing it until you consider that a hole in one of those massive earth movers' tires can lead to a 7 figure daily loss. armed guards or risk losing millions of dollars? i'd take the guards.

 

Morsi blew it big time. The people came on to the streets in their masses in protest at his ineptitude. Among these people were a significant minority whose motivations were dishonourable. Pure and plain opportunism ensued as the protests proceeded to be exploited by the military and the said minority of undemocratic elements (mainly fundamentalist Islamists). Ultimately what resulted can only be described as a military coup. In most other similar circumstances people like Cameron and Obama would have mouthed their discust at this undermining of democracy. But in this situation they remained relatively silent. One has to ask the question, why? I'm afraid, Egypt has returned back to square one while both the Islamists and the West rub their hands with glee. What the disaster of Egypt tells us is that sometimes the people get what they deserve. It pains me greatly to say that.

 

If what you say was found to have some truth, the highlighted bit is just blaming the victims.

 

A loose cannon runs Washintgon, DC. The loose cannon is Obama Unbound. Any evil is now possible.

 

Yeah, I was wrong to have said that and I take it back. I was too harsh on the vast majority of decent Egyptians.

 

So your issue is with the US for selling arms to the Egyptian army right? if they would buy arms from Russia instead would the bullets that were shot at the MB miss?

why wont you talk to the point once and say what you think about the Millions of Egyptians that overthrew your.....sorry..their leader ? its well known the Egyptians hate the US and Israel so stop the BS they did it because of those countries, the Egyptians overthrew Mursi not anyone else, deal with it.