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Ex-Transgender Teenager Sues Kaiser Permanente over Double Mastectomy

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s the main issue here — as long as this procedure was not illegal and was preformed with the consent of the legal guardian then this individual doesn’t really have a case.

    I also find it strange when certain groups of people regret a decision so they believe they become empowered to prevent anyone else from making that same decision.

    I don’t agree with children this age having surgery, I am even torn on some hormone treatments but I have the capacity to understand I am not a medical doctor or psychiatrist and am not the patient or their family so I don’t really have much room to tell them how to behave. It’s good to know everyone that is a hyper right wingers don’t have the capacity issue.
     
    cd8ed, Mar 21, 2023
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I don't.
    Should a doctor cut off a child's leg because the parents approve? No, this isn't healthcare.
     
    Louisiana75, Mar 21, 2023
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  3. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Per the bolded/underlines: You mean a minor child making life altering decisions? LOL

    Go on....
     
    Louisiana75, Mar 21, 2023
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  4. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure we all understand what a masectomy is. Keep your snark out of my thread please. Why are 13 year olds getting them for anything other than cancer removal? Because they thought it was "cool" on that day? Are you kidding me man? You want 13 year olds to run for office next?
     
    Darthcervantes, Mar 21, 2023
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They leave that out on purpose and think we won't notice. its what they do and its pathetically SHAMEFUL
     
    Darthcervantes, Mar 21, 2023
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who gets to determine if it is healthcare?

    You?

    Medical professionals? Medical licensing boards? Psychological associations?

    Or people like Margie Green and AOC?
     
    cd8ed, Mar 21, 2023
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that is what has happened here.

    She regrets the decision her parents made for her but wants to sue the hospital (likely because they have more money)

    Are we reading the same article?

    Now if the hospital preformed this procedure without her parents consent that is an entirely different matter.
     
    cd8ed, Mar 21, 2023
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The child didn’t make the decision as they legally cannot

    The parents did after consulting with the minor child’s medical professionals that likely (typically) deem this to be a last choice procedure.

    What are you people not comprehending?
     
    cd8ed, Mar 21, 2023
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Child Mutilation should require more than parent's consent. The leftist surgeons should refuse to butcher children. Stop defending this crapola
     
    Darthcervantes, Mar 21, 2023
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I comprehend it just fine. A LITTLE GIRLS BREASTS WERE CHOPPED OFF. what are YOU not comprehending?
     
    Darthcervantes, Mar 21, 2023
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    FYI, years ago, that happened. Corporeal punishment was the norm.
     
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  12. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who determines what is “butchering”?

    Should circumcision be banned under the same premise?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And who gave legal consent for that to occur?
     
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    So you'd allow a child to get their legs cutoff?

    Healthcare is for illnesses. Her breasts being on her body was normal. How is cutting off her breasts at the age of 13 healthcare?

    The justifications the left will try to play is mind blowing.
     
    Louisiana75, Mar 21, 2023
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  15. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the parents should not have had custody of the child and the hospital did not have to go along.

    If the parents if beating their child with a barbed wire bat and then asks the hospital to remove all of their limbs so the child cannot run away and the hospital does it, do you think the hospital is not responsible for any of it?
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you leftist keep comparing a spanking to a beating.

    Ok, would it help if I said the parents were punching the kid in the face with brass knuckles?
     
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    Does a circumcision remove a body part? No, it removed excess skin.

    Amazing that you cannot tell the difference. If you're circumcised, do you think it is equivalent to have your dick chopped off of your body? Next you're going to tell me clipping your toe nails is the same as a double mastectomy.
     
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    Yes, the parents and the hospital are responsible. I didn't know a hospital would agree to mutilating a child just because the parents say so.
     
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    Is she an orphan??? Where were her parents when this surgery took place???
    Me thinks the person(s) she should sue are her parents. You know…the ones who are supposed to be advocates for underage kids.
     
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    Kids should not be held responsible for their idiot woke parents decisions.
     
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    I agree that both the parents and the hospital are responsible. I didn't realize I could drop a kid off at the hospital and ask them to mutilate him and I'll pick him up at 3.
     
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    That isn’t what I said

    Gender dysphoria is an illness and if medical professionals believe the best corse of treatment to keep the child alive is such a process then what give you the authority to override those professionals as well as those parents?

    What is mind blowing is that all of you seem to believe you have all the answers but are unable to answer directly even simple questions surrounding it.
     
    cd8ed, Mar 21, 2023
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. You lefties are single handedly ****ing up our next generation with your crazy gender bullshit. Leave the kids alone.
     
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    Can you cite medical literature and peer reviewed studies that show that treatment is necessary?
     
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    I am not even going to acknowledge your hyperbole going forward, feel free to answer the question.

    Foreskin is not “just excess skin” — it serves numerous purposes and a child cannot consent to the procedure. Should parents be able to authorize this unnecessary medical treatment in consultation with the physician? Yes or no?
     
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