Ex-Transgender Teenager Sues Kaiser Permanente over Double Mastectomy

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  1. AKS

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    Hey some of us are born to STUPID parents.
     
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  2. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes they can, it's an elective surgery
     
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    Sexual mutilation of a child as elective surgery should be a crime, not a choice. Would you have such a cavalier attitude if someone had made a elective "medical choice" to cut your penus off when you were 13? My guess is probably not.
     
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  4. Vernan89188

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    "Oh won't someone please think of the children"
    Nice try.
     
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    6 pages of leftist like you attempting to justify cutting off a child's breasts. Yes, pro child abuse.
     
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    Thank you for your opinion
    I am sure you believe it is relevant
     
  7. AKS

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    I don't believe it but let's assume the studies are correct - that suicide rate decreases after surgery. What about the population of victims that regret the surgery later in life? How do you think that group compares the group that averted suicide? Does it even enter your calculus? It should. And I'll tell you this, the group that receives and regrets the life altering surgery will continue to grow - you can be certain of that (for obvious reasons).
     
  8. Louisiana75

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    I'm not the one trying to justify doing this to children.
     
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    More like 6 pages of authoritarians saying the state needs to raise your child.
     
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    Another thing I thought of.
    The anti-trans medical for minors groups/people have been calling for the parents of the children treated with blockers/hormone therapy and certainly surgery to be charged with child abuse.
    That is until cases like these 2 arrived and now the parents all of a sudden are victims and not the abusers.
     
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    Indeed, the entire story sounds odd

    I think that is where medical professionals step in, generally — from my understanding, surgery is the absolute last step after years of treatment and pharmaceutical interventions that have all failed. We definitely don’t need to get to a point where a child says something and they are immediately treated but also don’t need to get to a place where children feel the only way out is suicide because all other avenues have been removed from armchair doctors that got their medical degree from fox and friends.
     
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    Please show documented proof backing up your claim.
     
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    How often does this happen and is this a case of someone riding a wave to a nice fat lawsuit?
     
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    Not how we can answer their questions and typically try and do so in good faith with medically backed studies while they refuse to answer even basic questions and only respond with personal insults and elementary reasoning.

    The playing chess pigeon analogy seems fitting
     
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    No, you are the one dodging questions and failing to present any evidence of anything outside of your opinion however.

    You have failed to answer a single question posed to you directly
     
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    Both sound like excess skin removal
     
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  17. The Mello Guy

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    Very similar
     
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    Neither are necessary
     
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    If your implying the parents did this with a future lawsuit in mind then wow....i mean, i guess its possible, but OMG that is DARK!!!
     
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    So circumcision should be illegal?
     
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    Nowhere near similar. But I can see I’m dealing with someone who is irrational so goodbye
     
  22. Darthcervantes

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    This is the BEST you've got? You are comparing a piece of foreskin to an entire set of breasts or an entire penis and cajones? Really dude?
    That is sad


    Is Circumcision Necessary?
    The use of circumcision for medical or health reasons is an issue that continues to be debated. The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) found that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision (prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV) outweigh the risks, but the benefits are not great enough to recommend universal newborn circumcision.

    Now can you tell me the MEDICAL BENEFITS of chopping of a 13 yr old's breasts?
     
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  23. Bill Carson

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    It is utter bullshit, first this ain't no dude we're talking about.

    This whole trans thing is a ****ing farce. It's really just mental illness and chopping off tits ain't gonna fix that.
     
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    a long time ago, on some daytime talk show, there was some teen suing his parents for circumcision. but I'm sorry,; it was so long ago that I don't have the information.
     
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    Unless the hospital emotionally blackmailed the parents by suggesting the child might suicide if not mutilated.
     

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