FACT: Atheists are Lost

"brain dead" would mean that the body is no longer receiving signals from the brain, which would result in 'death' of the body. Were you perhaps using a made up definition of "brain dead"?

 

Just curious.....if ol Hey Zeus was trying to straighten out the Jews did he just pull this one out of his ass?:

Matthew 5:
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.…

 

1 Anecdotal

2. How does sexual reproduction prove that Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead 3 days later???

 

Remember One Mind.....you could write a 5000 word dissertation on moral philosophy and title it "Is Evil Inherent in Man?"...

and Incorporeal would do his Bill Clinton impression and ask you "Does that depend on what the meaning of 'is' is?"

 

LOL. One wonders if the body is receiving signals in some of these people. For it doesn't appear to be happening.

But since we are speaking of brains, I do not think that the brain creates consciousness. I think the brain is a transceiver of consciousness. If the brain is damaged, like a damaged tv set, the signal gets scrambled. Therefore consciousness is non local to the brain. To me this makes more sense, and explains many things that materialism has been incapable of understanding. I also think that the universe is manifested from consciousness, and is only there when an observer is there to observe it. Otherwise it exists only as a potentiality, in consciousness. So matter is manifested from consciousness, instead of consciousness being a product of matter. So the ground of reality is consciousness, not matter. Materialism assumed matter was the ground, as its first assumption. Yet materialism does not self prove materialism, no more than the bible can self prove itself. It is just a way we have decided to look at the universe. Nothing more than a tool, in both cases. And both mistake the tool for the actuality. And neither one remembers that each tool began life as a mere assumption. Over time, these assumptions become dogmas. Dogmas founded upon assumptions.

Man cannot stand, or tolerate, "not knowing" And so we will insist that we know, when in fact, some things are unknowable. This permeates science and religion. And I don't know how anyone could logically refute this.

 

Wrong again. Unlike Bill Clinton, I know the meaning of the word "is" = "be" and the definition of the word "be" = "exist". So you want to try again?

 

No, I'm not wrong. You'll find the most unimportant part of somebody's post...a post made up of paragraphs of material.....and since you're unable to debate their points.....you pick ONE phrase and want to debate it to death......

with the sole purpose of trying to "disprove the whole thing, because he didn't define 'brain-dead' correctly...or to my satisfaction."

Your SOP is pretty much a given at this point, Incorporeal.....and it's easy to figure out why you engage in it.

 

That (the above brief summary) is IMHO the most awesome publication I have read on this forum. I applaud your manner of expression. Thank you very much.

 

Read post 108 and you will see, that OM provided a proper response and subsequently he received my acknowledgment of a well written response. So, do you want to try again?

 

The problem with this is the "which god" question. For example, I have far more in common with a materialist atheist than I do with a fundamentalist christian (which you seem to be), because I think christianity is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*). OTOH, I DO believe our consciousness exists separately from our bodies (in fact, I've personally experienced it), and that it survives our physical death. But all this "if you don't believe the right thing you're going to burn for eternity" is complete hogwash. It matters not what you believe, the reality is the reality, and "belief" is not a requirement.

 

Not true we don't believe in any and all forms of a Divine Force (whatever you call it or them).

 

Maybe YOU don't but you are not ALL atheists.

 

I don't think you have a clue about what any of us believe. I'd say pretty much all of us count the 2000 year old fairy tale something written by man to use for control and money. Even the early ones received 10% of the crops. Now the Vatican owns more real property, fine art, gold, silver, jewels etc. than any other entity. They've been conning the people and screwing their children for hundreds of years.

 

I wonder where they thought all of that water went to when it fell off the edge of the Earth?

 

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No, I NEVER have professed to know what every atheist believes...unlike all those posters who DO.
An "atheist" is one who does not believe in god.


They are ALL INDIVIDUALS. With INDIVIDUAL thoughts and ideas. They only have ONE thing in common that makes them atheists.

Atheists are not a club with rules.....they don't sign an agreement pact.

 

I used to think that way when I was on the right. Now, I understand that our Founding Fathers did an Most Excellent job at the convention with our social Contract, styled our federal Constitution and supreme law of the land; they even provided for our secular and temporal morals and well being--what is not covered by our Ten Amendments.

 

Who in the world knows. They believe the earth was covered with five mile deep water and while it took time for evaporation everything from a pair of pissants to a pair of dinosaurs made it just fine on one small boat. I'm a Jack and the Beanstalk myself. Actually fairy tales never have been my thing.

 

An Ice Age could have been mistaken for a flood.

 

I have decided because there is so much confusion and arguing about these terms that I refuse to quibble anymore. I call myself an agnostic atheist most of the time, who once or twice a month feels yearnings to believe that manifest in moments of a kinda/sorta belief that lasts a second or at most a few minutes before it goes away. Even with a concerted effort, I can't make that kinda /sorta belief hang around any longer than it takes for the flavor of candy to stay in your mouth. I refuse to keep eating candy after candy after candy all day and night just because it leaves a nice aftertaste.

 

"Anecdotal" as if I'm trying to prove something? I'm simply sharing my experience, not interested in winning anything. I know I'm right.

 

So do the members of ISIS (know they are right.) Because just like you, they have an (often immoral) book that says that a particular invisible friend love them more than that invisible friend loves other people. You are no more credible than they are, basically. They just follow their religion more than you follow yours, I presume. They have more faith than you do.

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Candy is comforting, but ultimately bad for you....just like religion.

 

As I've always said - call me whatever you like: I do not believe in God.

 

furthermore, the OP is himself/herself an atheist when it comes to all other faiths, so the argument falls flat.

 

I don't believe because of "a book".

I also have no invisible friends.

 

Can you post the definition of Atheism you are using? That would help me walk you through the meaning behind my post.