Fascism and banning free thought in Florida

Exactly the opposite: abolishing ALL states and becoming ONE Republic. That was not possible in the 18th Century. It's not even possible now. But it will be.

There are many things that we can improve. Like getting rid of our idiotic "Presidential" system. A Parliamentary System... or something different would make more sense. But that's just speculation. Again... don't really want to get into hypothetical musings.

 

By what mechanism would that be done, given that there are fifty states? They’re not all going to ratify something that literally eliminates them. You’ll have to elaborate more.

 

They didn't "secede". They just created a new Republic.

Zero. That would be idiotic. We would only create a new Constitution to change it fundamentally. As in creating a new nation. Creating another version of the same makes no sense.

 

Whilst leaving the republic constituted by the articles. Leaving is another word for seceding.

So given that you consider there to be a zero probability of any of the states entering into this Third Republic, I don’t really see how you consider it “likely”

 

No I don't. It will happen when we think it needs to happen and in whatever form we need to make it happen. Point is that when we decide to do it, the current constitution is irrelevant.

 

Even if the Supreme Court says your may not?

 

That would depend on whether or not they want to give the Supreme Court of the Third Republic the power to say no.

 

The third republic doesn’t exist, and cannot exist unless the states secede from the current union and create a new one. And in our discussions, you seem adamant that secession is illegal.

 

It's illegal in the 2nd Republic.

 

So maybe you can explain how you’re going to bring about this Third Republic.

 

Answered.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ght-in-florida.610798/page-17#post-1074333831

 

And how do you guys find a legal way to make the current constitution irrelevant? Secession?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ght-in-florida.610798/page-17#post-1074333831

Who is "you guys"?

 

I’m not quite sure I understand what you’re asking

Oh: “It will happen when we think it needs to happen”

That’s the “you guys” I was asking about. Who is this “we” you talk about? You and who else?

 

I see. So We the People is "you guys"? To avoid confusion I would appreciate it if you refer to us as "You Guys the People" Note the capitalization.

 

Oh when you said “we” I thought you were including yourself. You know, because of grammar and all. So I was wondering who you and the other people you were including were. You know, the serious ones who are actually going to cause the demise of the United States. That’s a pretty gnarly and audacious goal. And probably totally illegal. Just sayin.

 

I am "We the People". You guys in other countries might find it odd. But it's very typical to emphasize that we are citizens with rights and who control our nation's destiny.

 

No. “We the people” means pretty much what it says.

“It will happen when we think it needs to happen” is you talking about you and at least one other person. Which can be referred to as “you guys” or perhaps “you all”.

So how are you all going to bring about the destruction of the current government in order to usher in your Third Republic?

 

You’re actually a single person. Only when you are referring to yourself and at least one other would the word “we” be appropriate. Because, grammar.

 

Your rectification is accepted.

 

The behaviours of who?

 

That’s funny because it was not offered.

So when you say “It will happened when we think it needs to happen” [referring your aforementioned statement that you will eliminate the current US government and institute a Third Republic], were you including yourself in “we”?

 

Some of the best lines in history are grammatically incorrect:

"This was the most unkindest cut of all." -Mark Anthony

"Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds" -Oppenheimer (original from Hindu)

Anyway... Enough waste of time.

 

Well I would suggest that, as a normal person and not Marcus Antonius or J. Robert Oppenheimer, you try to use grammar that is consistent and communicative.

If you say “we”, it is assumed that your are talking about a group that includes yourself. If that is not your intent, then perhaps “they” is appropriate.

So how is your group going to destroy the United States and institute the Third Republic you talked about?

 

There are options with secondary and primary education: public schools, charter schools, private schools of various types, and homeschooling, at least in the US. When it comes to school boards, those are elected by the people, much in the same way as mayors, county commissioners, state representatives, state senators, and Federal congresspersons and Senators. I too am for quality eduction, but my focus is teaching the kids to critical think, teaching real science, social science, history, and other subjects without any government intervention or political objective. I am not a fan of Project 1619 nor am I a fan of Project 1776 by Hillsdale College. To me, they teach the myth of US history, not real history. And real history is the good, the bad, and the ugly, the very ugly. Nor am I a fan of teaching creationism in schools because there is no scientific evidence. I am for teaching biology, which can include evolution, both fact and theory and teach the theories behind evolution, not what the internet thinks it is. Finally, I do think our education systems in each state should be reformed. We should have a liberal education in secondary schools and only teach reading, writing, and math at the primary education level. We also should have programs for those kids who are special, such as certain autistic children and children with developmental problems, and teach them basic reading, writing, and math even in secondary education, among other things. I also think in both private and public schools that the kids serve other kids their lunch, clean the school, and so forth, as part of the education.