Getting back to the abortion issue i.e. Roe overturned..

Before getting pregnant The spin doesn't work on me

 

Fine. Let them pay $1.5Billion of THEIR OWN MONEY... That's what they get for being too stupid to get on the pill for a few bucks or spend pocket change for a condom.

 

Then its back to. Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death

 

You won't stop abortions. Some women already don't receive the care should because doctors fear prosecution for violating abortion laws, so you're harming some women with your crusade.

 

I have no crusade. My baby making days are long over. I am just pro law and pro democracy. Sure, I don't want see unborn children murdered, but now that the VOTERS can decide what the law should be in their respective states, I am totally satisfied to let them decide.

 

Among others yes.

No, they're not told fetuses aren't human. They're just told fetuses are clumps of cells resultant from a male and female having sexual intercourse. They leave the human part out.

And don't try and tell me schools don't teach that women have a right to abortion.

And you think that is happening for EVERY SINGLE woman? That none slip through the cracks?

Eventually that will change. Truth and facts always prevail in the end. Even if it takes years or even decades or centuries. It WILL happen regardless of emotionalist arguments.

 

No, you haven't. You've used talking points with no facts to back them up. You've used extreme positions to try and argue from an emotionalist standpoint. You've used philosophical arguments. You've also purposefully taken words out of context. You've used spin tactics. And you most certainly have used insulting language. Whether you consider it insulting or not might be a different matter.

What you haven't done is dispute the science. What you haven't done is proven why a ZEF that is human and alive is not deserving of Rights.

 

I never said that you said a ZEF wasn't human. In fact I specifically said "Look in this very thread. @dairyair has argued that a ZEF is not human".

Nope.

 

Then that poster would be wrong.

LOL YOU said you'd make an exception for rape ....

So now you changed your stance and wouldn't....and force a raped woman to have her rapist's baby....that's cruel..

 

My, my, who's emotional
What I've done is stump you at every post ....and now you seem so frustrated

"Science" doesn't make laws or rights.

A ZEF doesn't have rights because it hasn't been born. IF it had rights it would be in conflict with the woman's rights ...it couldn't infringe on HER rights....like YOU couldn't infringe on other's rights...

You want the ZEF to be "deserving" of rights while denying women's rights..

 

The fetus did not ask to be made. Mom helped make him or her.

 

And back to the VERY BEGINNING! ""if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to use a contraceptive before sex"" Like I say, there is a huge lack of common sense in this country, and rewarding and encouraging it seems to be a common trait among the left ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Not at all unlike holding a gun responsible for the actions of the person using it.

 

It's unlikely abortion won't eventually be decided at the federal level.

 

You folks don't get it--women will never cede control over their wombs to the government.

 

More like eating like a pig and wondering how hell did I get so fat No forethought is how one ends up pregnant.

 

I say IF we are going to allow "abortion" we should allow it right up until the kid graduates high school. You know, when the kid is viable and presumably capable of support themselves.

This would solve behavioral problems of all kinds, but then again I am against murder.

 

No I get it! If someone is that ignorant of the potential of unprotected sexual intercourse then I suppose abortion really is the answer for todays Women ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Suicide by fork...

And she is only a little pregnant- she can renege on the deal.

 

Irony And yet they cede control of it after ten shots of alcohol, a sweet-talking sperm donor and the words "I love you bebe"

 

And if she doesn't or it fails then she still has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death.

 

Good thing abortion isn't murder.

 

You're trying to compare medical to ignorance Then again, clearly that's the anomaly in all this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Ah nope.

 

LMAO, your spin doesn't work on me