GOP House Oversight chairman moves to hold FBI director Wray in contempt of Congress

It's not "Rudy-connected." These are unclassified documents accessible to many people within the FBI. Someone potentially gave Rudy a copy of some of these documents and he turned over a lot of information.. potentially one of these forms was included. But, there's no information that asserts Rudy had any part in the process. This is an FBI informant whose source told him that he bribed Biden. There's two people involved: the person who claims he paid the bribe, the person who reported it to the FBI... and if a third person is involved.. it would be Biden, not Rudy. And, the Oversight Committee has already subpoenaed the bank records and claims they have already begun connecting the dots.

 

Were there even 2 dots to connect (see example below), James Comer couldn't connect them with a ruler, a big sharpie, and instructions...

DOT 1 .

DOT 2 .

 

This rhetorical question is nonsensical and says nothing of any substantive value. If you want to admit you were wrong and run from your previous Rudy comment, just say so (this post effectively acknowledges it to everyone following the conversation). But the word games are annoying. You've been supporting this false narrative that Rudy was the "source" of the report. There's no evidence of this whatsoever. And, now you're questioning what information other people may or may not have when you're presenting obvious falsehoods? It's not a good look.

 

Yup, Rudy is an FBI informant who has made a ton of money selling information to our government under the Obama administration. Bravo. You've cracked the case!

 

LOL so Rudy has been on the payroll of the fbi for 10 years, and had this info and didn't want to bring it up during the election. Talk about some super duper double spy agent stuff, does rudy also have bodies of aliens he captured while governor?

 

This is a clear case of people so desperately wanting something to be true that they convince themselves of the absurd.

 

Some more context on this note. Obviously, Raskin said he was wrong so there's that. Additionally, Comer claims the FBI told the two of them four times that the reason they wouldn't allow them to keep a copy of the document was because the investigation was still open. If the investigation were closed they would have no excuse to not redact portions and let the Oversight Committee keep a copy. But, Wray is being held in contempt for not abiding by the subpoena because he did not let them keep a copy saying it was relevant to an ongoing investigation. Raskin's lie made no sense which is why when the reporters pressed him on it over and over again he admitted he was wrong. Comer's story makes perfect sense which is why Raskin backed down. Nobody in the press pool was believing him and they were all shouting out at him questioning his bullshit story. Any media outlet reporting on his nonsense without the caveat of this context is lying to you too.

 

Barr Confirms Raskin Lied About Biden Bribery Probe

'It’s not true. It wasn’t closed down,” William Barr told The Federalist on Tuesday in response to Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin’s claim that the former attorney general and his “handpicked prosecutor” had ended an investigation into a confidential human source’s allegation that Joe Biden had agreed to a $5 million bribe. “On the contrary,” Barr stressed, “it was sent to Delaware for further investigation.”

'then-Vice President Joe Biden agreed to accept money from a foreign national to affect policy decisions.' Is what's being investigated.

 

BS. The “fbi” (re:Wray) is playing politics.

I’ve said it multiple times. They arent protecting the person by concealing their identity, they are protecting the accusations credibility by not releasing that it was garnered or brought by Rudy. The political effect of the accusation is much greater without Rudys name tied to it.

This all started 5 years ago with Trumps “perfect call”. They have been trying to claim Biden is grifting, yet Biden has released his taxes for the last 20 years.

I have a very honest question for you…..You claim Biden and his family are grifting, and that they are selling our country out for their own personal gain. So answer me a simple question: If that is what you truely believe, then how do you explain/defend Jared and Ivanka who very publicly got $2 BILLION from the Saudi’s just after their official visit as part of Trumps cabinet ?

 

It's not a good look for Jared at all. But, there's a difference between sending investment funds directly to an equity firm for investment management and giving money for no reason at all and bouncing the payments through 20+ secret shell companies.

At least with Jared Kushner the money was sent publicly and the service acquired is known. In Biden's case there is no plausible service or product acquired and they refuse to say what the funds, that were designed to be hidden from the public, were for. The only thing that makes sense is they were directly paying for Joe Biden's influence while he was an elected official which is the only reason they'd bounce the funds through roughly two dozen secret shell companies. If the payments were for legal purposes they wouldn't have gone through all that trouble to try to hide it. That's called a bribe, and it is a crime.

But, tell us some more about how you think Rudy is the FBI source in this scheme...

 

Sort of as expected, Comer the Coward has called off his Wray contempt vote today, after not gaining control of any documents in the process.. The entire oversight committee (including morons like BOO-bert, Biggs, and MTG) will be allowed to view the redacted document in a secure setting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-willing-allow-full-oversight-185047809.html

FBI - 1
Idiot Oversight Chairman - 0

 

Just because Jared did it, and it was made public, it still stinks to high heaven. There is a very long back story on Kushners real estate empire, but in summary, he drove daddy’s empire to the bring of bankruptcy, couldn’t get anyone (personal or corporate) in the US to back him financially, and then suddenly, after his official visit to Saudi as a member of Trumps cabinet he gets a massive $2 Billion ? This one stinks…..there is a great documentary on this called: Dirty Money

Now to the Biden issue. What we currently have is Comer and Raskin both making claims. Comer claims the FBI has something on Biden, Raskin says different. Barr making his claims either way should be summarily dismissed as we know who Bill Barr is. The overall claim is “is the FBI actually investigating Joe Biden”, everything else about the “shell companies etc, is all political hay at this point”.

Comer wants this investigation because he thinks he can hurt Biden politically, Raskin says the FBI told them nothing. We actually dont know if the FBI is actively investigating, or if they have any evidence at all. The right clambering for the name of the informant is just political theatre because they know Ray wont give it to them because the accusation is more important than the actual identity. The denial of the name is something the right can use, therefore they can keep this in the news, and hurt Biden politically.

The main point here is that this is all from one accusation, and we dont officially know who its from, but we can all surmise its most likely from Rudy, and knowing full well the FBI wont reveal their source, the right is using that to bolster their claim that this is real.

 

I said it's not a good look for Jared, which is more than you've been able to say for Biden...

Raskin already admitted to telling falsehoods.

What do you think the FBI was doing in the SCIF with them the whole time? Part of the subpoena was for the FBI to explain what they have done to investigate it. Wray said he was sending agents with the document who had knowledge of the FBI's handling of the report to facilitate the subpeona. Raskin initially came out and said the FBI told him the case was closed... hence he said he told them something. Raskin is obviously lying and has been caught in his lies. I have no idea why you think he's credible. His story doesn't pass the sniff test. It's plain as day that he's lying.

Also, I still want to hear more about how you think Rudy is the source of this investigation. I love reading fairy tales before bed.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fb...rs-to-view-biden-doc-alleging-criminal-scheme

Contempt vote is called off after Wray is allowing the full Oversight Committee to review the document.

And, Comer took another dig at Raskin's lies.

They've been taking the time out to dunk on Raskin in TV interviews, social media, and to the press. His credibility on this matter is zero at this point. We'll see if he'll step back and let someone else on the Committee step up and try to make a case to defend Biden.

 

Here's Raskin's official statement on the Oversight Committee's website. So is he lying here or where you claim he said the FBI told them nothing? Both statements cannot be true.

 

Comer also cancelled the contempt vote.

 

At the 48second mark, listen to what he says "after Rudy Guliani surfaced these allegations".

They were in a SCIF because any information about a current POTUS is protected. Raskin walking back the "investigation is closed" can be symantics, but you are correct that he should not have said that. There is no "lie" there, just that their may/may not be formal investigation. And don't forget that Rudy has been actively trying to get dirt on Biden from the Ukraine for years. Trump actually sent him to the Ukraine to get dirt for the 2020 election cycle. Rudy has been front and center of the hunt to make Joe Biden a criminal since 2017. The laptop was ALL Rudy. Trumps FBI has had the laptop since 2017, and remember Rudy and Trump made these same "crime family" claims about that laptop since day one. Trumps FBI had that laptop for 3 years of his presidency and still nothing !!!! The new "shell company" attack is just more politics with no substance, yet keeping the lie alive is all that matters in politics.

These attacks are more than "linked" they are one in the same, just more of the same accusations, with different players.

 

It is semantics... here's what Raskin was referring to..

SNIP
The broader Brady inquiry, the FBI told Raskin and Comer this week, was closed in August 2020. But Republicans have highlighted that the document was reportedly handed over to DOJ prosecutors in Delaware, who have been conducting a years-long investigation into Hunter Biden, the president’s son.
ENDSNIP

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/07/christopher-wray-contempt-house-gop-00100953

It's the GQP parsing out the word "the"... as in "the investigation is closed" vs "an investigation was closed"

Anybody calling Raskin a liar over that is clearly a partisan hack.... and yes, that includes Bill Barr...

 

I'm not sure why this is confusing, so I'll try to explain this in very simple terms. The FBI generates an FD-1023 form when a human source reports information. There were two FD forms created in relation to selling Joe Biden's influence overseas. The source of information within the two FD forms is a source the FBI considers very reliable and whose name is not Rudy Giuliani. While I appreciate your dedication to this narrative, it's probably time to let it go and focus on the substance of the actual reports.

 

So then tell us who those people are. You must know because you know its not Guiliani right ?

 

It's someone who was working with Burisma in Ukraine. It's not Rudy, time to move on and find a new talking point. This one is dead. You've gotten more than enough life out of it.

 

And how do you know that ?

You are so sure it’s not Rudy, please explain how you know it’s NOT Rudy ?

Im seriously curious how you know….

 

So Rudy is a FBI informant thats been doing it for 10 years(including under Obama) and is considered credible by the FBI? That is your contention here.

 

Because I'm intelligent.

 

You dodge is noted.