Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another fun fact: the Kaiser and the German Empire (the 2nd Reich) helped fund the Bolshevik revolution, as they knew the Socialists wanted to end Russia's involvement in WW1 against Germany.
     
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    and large american corporations funded Hitler throughout the whole war, america could have stopped him in his tracks and didnt. one small piece of legislation and they would have grounded every plane germany had
     
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    It was the slaughter of refugee men women and children by the poles after Versailles sliced Germany in half

    There is a lot these people wont tell you, and if you do not already know you will never know without extensive research and that is getting harder every day.

    @yardmeat and @Ronstar will never give you this kind of info:

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    The so called gas chambers had windows, and they could have all jumped out the window!

    To this day the alleged showers had shut off valves well within reach, they could have shut the valves of to turn off the gas if using the showers to gas Jews were in fact true.

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    I've already debunked this nonsense, as have many others.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Nope its your claim its yours to prove! Anything you cannot prove cannot be a fact and if it cannot be a fact no one has any reason to believe it.
    No you didnt, stop the pretense, just the opposite, you bailed, same as the swimming pool nonsense, when you claimed it was not for the prisoners when there is hard evidence to the fact it was for the prisoners.
     
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    Yes. I have. And I addressed the swimming pool conspiracy theories as well.
     
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    yes you addressed it all, I agree, and your addresses were monumental failures! :lol: :roflol:
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    We can agree that I prefer facts and that you prefer emojis to facts.
     
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    and that is precisely why you desperately need me!
    the rest of your statement notwithstanding
     
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    I don't need more emojis.
     
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    I think that it is important to remember that the same Holocaust Industry - Lobby that has succeeded in deceiving millions about: "6 million Jews murdered" via shooting, homicidal gas, steam and electrocution chambers(1) is comprised of the same people who deceived millions with fake human skin lampshades, shrunken heads from Africa, fake human skin pocketbooks and even a "vaporizer" (2)to explain why there were fewer bodies than claimed.

    For years the world was horrified by this "proof" that the "evil" Germans would skin people alive, cut off and shrink human heads, and even invent machines that made people disappear(2).

    I suppose the people that refused to believe in these earlier blatant acts of fraud were the first "Holocaust deniers" but the fact remains that the same fraudulent Holocaust Industry (3), (4) that lied before about early grisly fakes is still deceiving people gullible enough to believe the impossible.

    Why would anyone believe an entity with such a clear history of immensely profitable deception?

    Thanks





    (1). "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


    (2). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (3). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



    (4). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED
     
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    Except the world is not Poland.
     
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    None of this changes the hard truth that millions of Jews were killed by the Nazis and their fascist allies during WW2. Close to 6 million. Around 3 million in just Poland.

    They were killed by shooting and starvation and by gassing and by torture and by untreated disease.
     
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    Since it looks like the other Holocaust thread seems to be closed, I thought that I ask you, again for a photo of just one of the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers that must have existed for the Germans to have gassed so many people.

    So far, neither you nor anyone else who actually believes the homicidal gas chamber myth has produced anything to support this slanderous anti German fable.

    I've already posted four eyewitness accounts that deny that they existed..... want more?

    Thanks,
     
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    The Germans dynamited the gas chambers. We have photos of the remains and we have the chemical residue on their walls. Surely you know this. And, no, four eyewitness accounts do not "deny that they existed." It takes some critical thinking skills to understand that. Meanwhile, we have far more than four eyewitness, both Jewish and Nazi, who say they existed. Speaking of critical thinking skills: being anti-Nazi doesn't make me anti-German. For ****'s sake, my grandfather, who was IN a Nazi prison camp, was the son of German immigrants who spoke German at home and read only German newspapers. There have been many great Germans, and there were many great Germans even at the time . . . the ones who opposed the Nazi fascist regime.

    I posted about one of my particular favorites in the last thread:

     
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    WHERE ARE ALL THE "HOMICIDAL GAS CHAMBERS?



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    No, "we" don't because if "we" did, "we" would have shown them by now.
    For weeks I've asked you to produce a photograph, blueprint, work order or maintenance request for just one of the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers that would have been needed to kill as many people as claimed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2).
    This same Holocaust Industry has been caught filing "false restitution claims" and a "...long running scam" to cheat and deceive the German government, Holocaust survivors and anyone gullible enough to believe the impossible.
    Parroting proven falsehoods from proven frauds is not demonstrating critical thinking skills

    Earlier, you claimed that there were homicidal gas chambers at the "...third camp at Auschwitz" which most people know to be Monowitz. After I showed where former Auschwitz guard, Oskar Groening, claimed they were in the second camp, Birkenau,(3) you changed your mind and said they were in Birkenau so where are they all and why can't you produce a photo of one?

    It is important to remember that Mr. Groening was not allowed to tell the truth that there were no homicidal gas chambers because the wealthy and influential Holocaust Industry has compelled about 16 "democracies" to criminalize the truth about the Holocaust.

    You claim that there were eyewitnesses to homicidal gas chambers but Jewish historians reject such stories as "hyper historical"

    EXCERPT “Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz criticized what he called the “hyperhistorical” nature of most Jewish survivor testimony. Gringauz wrote that

    “most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies.” CONTINUED (4)

    AND:

    EXCERPT “Shmuel Krakowski, archives director of Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust center, confirmed in 1986 that more than half of the testimonies of Jewish survivors on file there are unreliable. Krakowski said that many survivors, wanting to be a part of history, may have let their imaginations run away from them. He stated that many of the testimonies on file at Yad Vashem were later proved to be inaccurate when locations and dates could not pass an expert historian’s appraisal. Krakowski commented on the Jewish survivor testimony,

    “Many were never in the places where they claimed to have witnessed atrocities, while others relied on second-hand information given them by friends or passing strangers.”

    Although seldom mentioned in the press, numerous eyewitnesses have reported that they did not see any evidence of genocide in the German concentration camps. CONTINUED (4)

    Self professed Holocaust survivors Moshe Peer claims to have been gassed 6 times but the slightly more modest Gena Turgel claimed to have just walked out the gas chambers completely unaware that she had been gassed.
    Do you believe them too?

    Of course parroting the standard Holocaust narrative is anti German slander.
    I've lived, worked and studied in Germany where I knew, worked and / or lived with dozens of Holocaust survivors, German war Veterans, German civilians and other Veterans who endured the misery of the post WW 1 years and camp survivors of various nationalities.

    I knew an older Russian woman (an aristocratic, White Russian vs Red Russian) whose home was burned and family and servants executed by the Communists.
    She was left to wander the Eastern Front and was captured by the Germans, Finns, English, French and Americans. She survived because she spoke 5 languages and claimed that the Germans treated her the best.

    Briefly put, I've served in the US Military in S.E. Asia (Laos) and known countless American WW 2 Veterans. I simply do not believe that the German people, military included, were any more malevolent than any other participant in that horrific conflict.

    Thanks,



    (1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED



    (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (3). “Auschwitz guard's account of gas chamber scene differs from survivors’”
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/auschwitz-guards-account-of-gas-chamber-scene-differs-from-survivors/

    EXCERPT "Though he was more regularly assigned to the camp's Auschwitz I section, he said he guarded the Birkenau ramp three times, including one busy 24-hour shift. The main gas chambers were located at Birkenau." CONTINUED


    (4) "An Unproven Holocaust: The Unreliable Eyewitness Testimony to the Genocide of European Jewry"
    http://www.wearswar.com/2021/05/31/...-testimony-to-the-genocide-of-european-jewry/
     
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    Yeh goal posts have a habit of moving a lot when the claims are false.
    The goal posts never move here:

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    We know where they were. We have the ones in Auschwitz, for example. We have the eye witnesses, both Nazi and the Jews charged with moving the bodies. We have the poison residue. And we know this wasn't for delousing both because the residue would have been much more highly concentrated if it were and because of the door design.
     
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    no forensic investigator found ANY evidence whatsoever and no one has ever testified that they saw anyone being gassed :fart:
    except of course here
    they arent talking about too many beans and the beer the Jews could buy at auschwitz you know
    you sure know a lot from your armchair investigation
     
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    Where could you buy beer in Birkenau? One day you will have to learn that there was more than one kind of camp, and that not all camps were death camps. Then you will stop falling for vapid bullshit like the beer and swimming pool brain farts.
     
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    cigarettes too!
     
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    Provide your evidence that Birkenau had a cantina, cigarettes, etc. that were available to the prisoners.
     
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    I asked for the list of all camps that we not death camps, when you gonna cough that up for us?
     
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    Jewish testimony
    provide your evidence Birkenau did not have a cantina!
     
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