Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Testimony you are incapable of providing. I will ask again: Provide your evidence that Birkenau had a cantina, cigarettes, etc. that were available to the prisoners.
     
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    I've already mentioned those camps before. There were camps where the guards lived. There were labor camps. My grandfather was in one.
     
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    Provide the orders that preclude prisoners from the cantina you were not there
     
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    you failed to answer the question which ones
     
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    Ok, we know you mentioned they exist, but we want the names of each camp.

    Got a geneality tree with your grandfathers name on it, all intakes were registered and with a numbered tatoo.

    Help us to believe you
     
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    He was an American soldier. He didn't get tattooed. I've mentioned this before. And you demand for the name of every single camp is completely nonsensical.
     
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    I've named examples before.
     
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    Fake request and unresponsive
     
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    The Holocaust denial loses every time it is tried. The ugly truth is well documented.

    ""He makes surprising and often unfounded assertions about the Nazi regime which tend to exonerate the Nazis for the appalling atrocities which they inflicted on the Jews.

    "He is content to mix with neo-fascists and appears to share many of their racist and anti-Semitic prejudices.

    "The picture of Irving which emerges from the evidence of his extra-curricular activities reveals him to be a rightwing pro-Nazi polemicist.

    "In my view, the defendants have established that Irving has a political agenda. It is one which, it is legitimate to infer, disposes him, where he deems it necessary, to manipulate the historical record in order to make it conform with his political beliefs."

    Irving had denied all the charges in Professor Lipstadt's book. The judge found: "Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence; that for the same reasons he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favourable light, principally in relation to his attitude towards, and responsibility for, the treatment of the Jews."

    Mr Justice Gray ruled that the author was "an active Holocaust denier; that he is anti-Semitic and racist and that he associates with rightwing extremists who promote neo-Nazism"."
    THE GUARDIAN, The David Irving libel trial: special report, By Vikram Dodd, 12 Apr 2000.
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/apr/12/uk.irving
     
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    then you have orders exempting american soldiers?
    cant wait to see this!
     
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    yes it is!
    beer, swimming pools, cigarettes, comedy shows, plays, live bands in those dastardly deadly death camps

    Hell the prisoners even had their own whore house
     
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    please produce the briefs so I can review the case.
     
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    If you want to review the case you will have to do your own research, or contact the law firms involved and ask them to share their work product with you.
     
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    Do you have a source for that?
     
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    I applaud your efforts here, but while Mission Impossible appears to be possible for Ethan Hunt -- and even for the Ukrainians, Holocaust deniers are usually entrenched beyond all hope for rescue.

    “To try to defeat an irrational supposition—especially when it is firmly held by its proponents—with a rational explanation is virtually impossible.” Deborah E. Lipstadt

    Good luck.
     
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    Nah just looking for verifiable facts, waiting to see some, got any?

    Sure simply look back through this and part one threads, they are on 'every' page!
    Nope, not my claim, I dont need it, you do.
     
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    You seem to have been disinformed. Lipstadt, like the Guardian is very credible with respect to the sources Holocaust deniers rely on.

    "The truth is that they are liars, and one cannot debate a liar. It is akin to trying to nail a blob of jelly to the wall. Generally speaking, people differentiate between facts and opinions—you can have your own opinions, but not your own facts. But in the case of deniers, there are facts, opinions, and lies.” Deborah E. Lipstadt.

    You should read more credible sources.
     
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    I only read one credible source. The rest are YTBD.
    Thats all I asked for was the facts from you and you did not provide them.
    I await the alleged facts you claim that I requested from you
     
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    . . . no one ever claimed that American soldiers were tattooed. Ever. Anywhere. That wasn't a thing. Why make **** up?
     
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    My claim that there were multiple kinds of camps . . . which you are the ONLY person in existence who appears to deny. I gave examples. You demanded to have a complete list of every camp that ever fit in each and every category. Yes. That's a dishonest request that has nothing to do with substantiating the claim.
     
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    I cited the Guardian article and Lipstadt. Both are far more credible than anything I have ever seen cited by deniers.

    This would be good place to start finding sources:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
     
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    People who have blindly believed the Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM don't realize that the "gas chambers" (aka delousing chambers) and crematoria were built and vigorously used to save lives, not to execute people and hide the evidence.
    Even mainstream Holocaust historian, Arno Mayer, admits that more people died of disease (i.e. typhus etc) or natural causes than were executed.

    The disease that was the primary cause of death in the camps was so rampant near the end of the war that 15,000 inmates died in Bergen Belsen after liberation when food and medicine were plentiful. The Germans had nothing to feed or medically treat the inmates and the Red Cross blamed the Allies for bombing civilian rail lines to the camps.
    Subsequent investigations found that there was no policy of deliberate starvation.

    Another fact that debunks the homicidal gas chamber myth is the fact that American doctors led by Dr. Charles Larson did thousands of autopsies and there was not one death from cyanide poison.

    For weeks I have asked individuals who actually believe the homicidal gas chamber myth to show a photo, blueprint, work order or maintenance request but out of all the films, documents, photographs etc, no one has been able to do so.
    Therefore, I thought I'd post a photo of some of the infamous gas chambers that show the infamous peep holes.

    Few things titillate hopelessly deceived disciples of Holocaustianity more than imagining sadistic SS ghouls clustered around the peephole leering at their slowly dying victims. The truth about their real function, however, is much more mundane and is explained in the text below:

    "HOLOCAUST DEPROGRAMMING COURSE"
    https://fullcontrol.se/holocaust-deprogramming-course.html
    EXCERPT:
    "Below: Prisoners at Auschwitz working in one of the larger clothing disinfestation chambers in the camp. They worked in much the same way as the autoclaves, with “dirty” and “clean” sides. The peepholes in the doors could be closed by raising the flap and blocking it with a catch. These were opened at the end of a disinfestation cycle to allow fresh air to enter as soon as the extractor fans were switched on." CONTINUED

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    "Two inmates take out the clothes from a disinfestation chamber at Auschwitz."

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think that any rational person with even a casual understanding of war in general must have observed that all sides employ atrocity propaganda to demoralize and demonize their adversary. Regrettably, after a war, the victor's atrocity propaganda(1) becomes the official narrative and with rare exceptions, that is precisely what has happened with WW 2.

    Nothing propelled the Allied war narrative around the world better than America's Hollywood(2) which revealed the human skin lampshades, shrunken heads, human fat soap, and a demonic vaporizer to make bodies disappear(3)

    Today, a day doesn't pass without MSM trotting out another Holocaust survivor spinning grisly yarns for 15 minutes of fame or something that echos the Allied propaganda narrative demonizing the Germans who have paid more dearly in blood and money for losing a war than any other nationality.
    What do you think?

    Thanks,




    (1). “Soviet’s Anti-Nazi Propaganda, Fake Pictures during World War”
    http://www.hoaxorfact.com/Crime/soviet-s-anti-nazi-propaganda-fake-pictures-during-world-war.html

    EXCERPT “The Soviets and the rest of the allies were in fact faking hundreds of pictures during and after the World war, as a part of psychological warfare against the German people and propagandize their own people.

    However, in later years, with the user of computers and the internet, the usage of those hundreds of images were proved to be faked during and after World War Two, which also intended to demonize Hitler and the NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).”CONTINUED


    (2). "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
    https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

    EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

    But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED


    "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"

    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
     
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    Why would a delousing chamber have a peep hole? Why would that peep hole have a metal cage on it in the inside? Why would a delousing chamber door only be able to be opened from the outside? And why were there signs of lower concentrations of the poison in these chambers than in actual delousing chambers?
     
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    well you claimed your father was in a labor camp and now you admit you cant give me a lits of camps that were not evil death camps? Seriously?

    So you cant tell us which were labor and which were death camps. alrighty then!

    More of the same nothing from you.
     
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