Is Roe v. Wade at Risk???

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Because they haven't let religious fanaticism override even the smallest shred of human decency?

    Even orthodox Jewry supports aborting a fetus produced by rape. The explanation is that it would be like letting the mother be raped again every time they saw the child for its entire life. The Catholic Church, however, has no such moralist nicety

    How can people with daughters remain Catholics? Your religion hates your own children so.
     
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    Quick, edit that post
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Why should the basic rights you have depend on what state you're in?
     
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    Because that's the way federalism works. And abortion should not poison our national politics as it has since Roe.
     
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    Yeah, Marty is a bit of a moron.

    The Supreme Court only agreed to rule on one issue, if the standard in Casey, (not Roe) was violated by ALL developing unborn baby protections prior to viability. This case uses the fetal pain threshold to protect the unborn, so no, Roe is not at risk.

    More interesting:
    Texas heartbeat bill signed into law... and there's a first-of-its-kind twist

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    WHY did he ban abortion ?

    Uh, if it's because it's "" murder""" that sure seems to be a strange way to handle it...have people sue ?????? What?!!
     
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    No EVERY American citizen in the UNITED States should have the same basic right of bodily autonomy....or the southern states could go back to owning slaves...
     
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    We shall see. It took creative lawyering to get an abortion right into the Constitution, and lawyering can get it out. Our national politics would no longer be poisoned, and abortions would still be available in pro-choice states. Btw, I'm pro-choice.
     
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    Nobody put abortion rights into the Constitution.


    Politics aren't poisoned by abortion...every voting cycle Repubs raise the abortion issue to appease their stupid one-issue voters and then they do nothing about it...I find that entertaining...:)
     
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    Actually, your attitude is an example of the poison at work.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Nobody put abortion rights into the Constitution.


    Politics aren't poisoned by abortion...every voting cycle Repubs raise the abortion issue to appease their stupid one-issue voters and then they do nothing about it...I find that entertaining...:)



    How so? What's being poisoned again? And how is this affecting anything?? Saying something is "poisoned" is vague.....did you have a point?
     
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    From your #60: ". . . every voting cycle Repubs raise the abortion issue to appease their stupid one-issue voters and then they do nothing about it...I find that entertaining."

    That's poison. We don't need to talk about each other that way.
     
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    OK, I see your point...I just don't agree with it....I stated a fact that I have seen for years....
     
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    You have seen it for years because of Roe.
     
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    Federalism does not work that way. Your basic rights are protected by the Constitution, not determined by where you are
    Prohibiting abortion did indeed poison our national politics as religious fanaticism has always poisoned us throughout our history. Religion hates freedom, we should have forbidden its organized expression from the beginning.
     
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    If you don't agree to allow abortions in the case of rape, much of the social and political support for opposing elective abortions in general will disappear. Like I said, that is why I supported allowing abortions in the case of pregnancy caused by rapes. Political reasons.

    If you can't save everyone, you save who you can.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It would very quickly go from maybe half the States permitting it, to a handful, to none. Pro-Life is backed by worldwide religious fanaticism and while they are far from a majority they have a great deal of money. Just look at the Catholic Church and they are only one part. They would steamroll all the States one by one.

    If State by State is so wonderful lets do it for everything. Let's bring back slavery. Only in Mississippi, of course.
     
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    When was the right to transmit disease taken away? LOL
     
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    Ban on slavery is written into the constitution now. Abortion is mentioned NOWHERE in the constitution.
     
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    Slavery never went away. It was just prohibited in the private sector. Governments (state and federal) retained the “right” to enslave.
     
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    Are you suggesting that they are not "liberals?"

    Based on what?
     
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    That's why the ruling of the Supreme Court was needed. The conservative SC ruled that the government has no right to deny it from women.
     
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    The two columnists? I don't know. I never heard of them, and neither have you.

    Already discussed and answered.

    I am pro-life, but trying to get the government to call the shots is the wrong path, because studies prove that more restrictive abortion laws do not reduce abortions. Pakistan, which has very restrictive abortion laws (the kind GOP can only dream about), has the highest abortion rates in the world. I would prefer an approach which reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place. That is the only way to reduce abortions. Look at Switzerland for example. They have very few unintended pregnancies and hence very few abortions.
     
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    OK, then Anti-Choicers are being very hypocritical.

    WHY are they against abortion?


    They say it's because it's "murdering a baaaaaaby!"


    So are they saying it's OK if a raped woman """murders her baaaaby " but no one else can ???

    They don't care about that "baby" because of the OPTICS !!!!!!! Wow that is hypocritical...
     
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    Banning abortion is exactly the same as slavery....exactly...loss of bodily autonomy...which Republicans long for ...
     
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