Israel smears Europe as “fostering hate and racist trends”

Plus, not that it would be anyone business, but I have NEVER posted on Vanguard. Ever. Nor do I use terms like "****". Ever.

And like I really care what a lawyer from a country like Canada has to say.

A Jewish Canadian lawyer no less.

This is Canada and this is their double standards(not letting an elected Parliamentarian in while absurdly this is getting said by a Jewish terrorist group).

I think that tells you all you need know about the country once known as Canada.

[video=youtube;fAm7rfHKSyY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=fAm7rfHKSyY[/video]

 

In 1994, in his capacity as Canadian spokesman for the banned Israeli political party Kach, Weinstein, using his pseudonym of Meir Halevi, commented on the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre committed by Kach member Baruch Goldstein in Hebron saying "[o]ur organization does not condemn the attack. It condemns the Israeli government for not providing adequate protection for settlers."

In May 1995 Meir Weinstein and US JDL leader Irv Rubin were caught and apprehended by police while trying to break into the property of Ernst Zündel, . No charges have ever been laid in the incident.


Weinstein was politicized by Meir Kahane's writings and became one of his followers. In 2008 he told the Jewish Press "I will always be a loyal disciple of Rabbi Kahane. Our ideology is based on the Jewish Idea as taught by Rabbi Kahane.


On April 3, 2009, CBC Radio's The World Report carried a profile on Weinstein which asserted that a link was discovered on Weinstein's Facebook page to a chat group called "Death to Arabs". Weinstein told CBC the link had been sent to him in Hebrew and he added it not knowing what it said.


In 2011, Weinstein's Jewish Defence League organized a "support rally" for the controversial English Defence League featuring a live speech, via Skype, by EDL leader Tommy Robinson.


On October 5, 2011 on the Michael Coren show it was revealed that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had launched an investigation against at least nine members of the Canadian JDL in regards to an anonymous tip that the JDL was plotting to bomb Palestine House in Mississauga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Weinstein

 

In 2009, Weinstein's JDL issued an "open letter" to the Canadian government calling on British MP George Galloway to be barred from entering Canada.

The government did so and Weinstein appeared on Channel 4 News to debate Galloway over the issue. During the interview, Weinstein accused Galloway of being a "proxy agent" of Hamas and Hezbollah. When Galloway stated that he would be speaking in Canada through "other means", electronic if necessary, Weinstein threatened that "we will see to it that the Canadian government will be monitoring every individual and organization that will have anything to do with it” and that he and the JDL "will be looking into these organizations that invited him… their links to terror groups as well” and that he will “see to it that the Canadian Government will be monitoring every individual and organization that has anything to do with George Galloway



That's Canada.

A N American Zionist Jew outpost.

 

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"Israeli journalist Rossi Gurvitz who writes for several Israeli publications, including the financial daily Calcalist, has provided a rare glimpse into the hidden—from Gentile eyes—world of Jewish Supremacist hatred and racism against non-Jews.."


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.....AND there is an eye witness that said the Chelyabinsk meteor that hit Russia on Feb this year was.......cercumsized......Im not saying anything here, but just that you'll know !!

 

I am directly on topic and I thank the moderator(s) because I am trying hard to stick to this thread and your comments. The fact though is you keep telling me to stick to topic but your comments have meandered to all kinds of comments you express that have nothing to do with the original thread but contain slurs against all Jews. For that I have challenged you-your comments and your agenda of comments which clearly insult all Jews with negative stereotypes repeatedly.

 

There was a Jack Napier who presented regularly on Vanguard and other Neo Nazi web sites.

If you are saying its coincidence you use the same name as that individual that either indicates it is a "coincidence" or you are not wanting to admit your actual political affiliation.

You were asked directly in regards to your continued comments on this thread why you single out Jews continuously with negative slurs that you make in your comments. Your response has been you do not, but your words speak for themselves.

It is my opinion your words in your comments in this thread evidence you are using the thread and forum to engage in hate comments about Jews.

If you want to claim its coincidental a Jack Napier with the same name has engaged in the exact same comments including producing films he made hating Jews, let us let readers decide if its coincidence.

 

I appreciate that political forums are intended to provide for freedom of speech. I appreciate the moderators do not want personal attacks on any participant. I personally believe it is better to debate contentious remarks of hatred than censor them.

In the case of this thread I believe it best illustrates how the topic meandered from its original thread and broke down into insults and slurs against Jews as a people using the pretext of circumcission or criticizing Israel to justify it.

The hate laws of Canada were not designed to censor forums. If however the threads on this forum were produced in a newspaper or on air in Canada they would most likely cross the line and constitute hate speech.

Do I want Jack Napier's comments censored no. I do think though his words are hateful and are to be challenged and I thank the forum for that opportunity.

 

The topic is in the header.

Or the OP.

The topic is not me, and never is me.

Now that you hopefully understand this and in full, please do go on...

 

WTF.

I can see that you are going to persist with this off topic lie.

Let me again, and with ever decreasing patience demonstrate to you...

1) I am never the topic. Ever and without exception.

2) I have no idea what "Vanguard Forum" you keep bleating on about.

3) At no time ever, in all of my history on here, and with no exceptions, have I ever used words like "****". So you can take your "syntax is the same" stuff and go join the operation for those that did not pass the exam - MISSAD.

4) Shall we run your username through Google, then lest it return anything, assume it can ONLY be you?

This is my being friendly.

Repeat these lies or tactics again and you will be making this very personal.

I suggest you do not make it personal and stick to something that is NOT ME.

I am not going to go over and over this with you.

If you want to make it personal, take if off the main forum and PM me.

Now.

MOVE ON

 

Then don't post a copy in to Canada Today or whatever rag it is, and you will be just fine.

Now get back to topic.

 

yes - "your people".

Isn't it funny when a jewish bigot uses the same "blood/origin" argument as your run of the mill jew hating bigot?
Funny ironic I mean, especially when each is as are blind as the other to such blatant hypocrisy.

If this particular jew thought the jews were a race, then he's a pretty dumb jew.

I don't defend any form of bigotry, even my own.

You mistake my repeated tempering of your sweeping condemnations and generalizations with a dose of balanced reality, as me supporting the objects of your scurrilious excoriations.


When one constantly whinges about the people they hate hating back, it suggests that at times the effect can also be the cause.

 

I am well aware of Mr. Napier's ideology. Afterall he has expressed its few dimensions over 37,000 times around here.

that his opinions might land him afoul of our screwed up human rights/hate crimes legislation is pathetic and indicates how flawed our system actually is. the unintended consequences of ridiculous ultra-sensitivity has resulted in any number of idiot rulings by non-judicial HR commissioner/bureaucrats.

Your run of the mill jew hating holocaust denier who does not advocate violence against the objects of his hatred, but merely enjoys expressing his twisted perceptions is hardly fodder for a hate crime, despite however odious you might find that opinion.

Freedom of expression (the non violent advocating kind) is something we should all defend. It is a cornerstone of our liberty.

 

Let's review some facts.

Last week saw the death of the Jewish spiritual racist, Chief Rabbi Yosef.

Who said, among many other viscous things;


"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel.



"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,"



"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."


Now imagine that the other way around...



"The Jew were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the Gentile.



"Why are Jews needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,"



"With Jews, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Gentile."


Anyone normal would grasp that the burden of responsibility for such proclamations is on the person saying it and any followers he may have....

But...

He is revered.



Once voted the 23rd all time "best Israeli".


He also publicly said...

as quoted by the BBC:

"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.

"The Lord shall return the Arabs’ deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world."

The "waste their" seed is a reference to Palestinian children.

Got it so far?


And the Jewish response to this man's demise...



Times of Israel confirmed, the "largest funeral in Israeli history."



"We’ve been left orphans, we have no father. we have no leader."Aryeh Deri - (political leader of the Shas political party )


(Israeli President Shimon Peres )
"a great man with an unbelievable memory and the wisdom to share his knowledge with others. His contribution was his love for Israel and he solved problems no-one else could solve using his wisdom and spirituality."


"one of the most important Jewish legal authorities of our generation." Benjamin Netanyahu


But you want to somehow pass it back to me.

See?

Like before, you prove our point yet again.

 

I believe he took responsibility for saying those things. Do you have any evidence that he claimed otherwise or denounced his jew-first position?

So he is a religious bigot and you are up in arms over it. Funny how you don't get your knickers in a twist when muslims religious bigots go all bigotty on infidels or hindi religious bigots, or christian religious bigots, or sunworshiping religious bigots go all bigotty and supremist on everyone else. \

OTOH, your selectivity doesn't excuse the bigotry of religous dogma regardless of its source.

I disagree with your contention that all followers of a religious leader are responsible for the statements of that leader.

 

The question is when do those words go over the line and express a kind of hatred that can ignite others to engage in violent behaviour? That is the question and no I do not claim to know the answer to it and you saw my responses. I am not calling to censor the comments, just condemn them as hateful. Period. I don't think censoring them is the cure or way to handle them either.

We are not in disagreement but when you make a comment that accuses an entire people of engaging in pedophilia under the pretext that has to do with circumcission it needs to be called out for what it is.

My question is, how far do his threads need to meander to then constitute trolling? It is a fine line when someone comments with words that simply indicate they seek to insult Jews which I believe the comments he has placed on this thread indicate.

I have however made my point and for people like you who know the difference, I hope you would know by my comments I would never want this kind of comment censored, just challenged. Then again I agree with some posters, it can prove pointless and some comments if ignored lose oxygen and therefore can not continue to burn.

 

You stated on this forum that National Socialism is a viable form of government as I have produced below.

This is directly on point as I contend your comments reveal a hatred of Jews consistent with National Socialist ideology and that your agenda is to use the pretext of circumcission and alleged criticism of Israel to engage in hate comments about Jews using this thread.

I challenge your comments as hate mongering against Jews in line with a Nazi ideology and so I challenge it.

I have reproduced your comment below. If you claim there was no Jack Napier on Vanguard making similiar comments I can provide them.

As you now claim, you are not the Jack Napier, National Socialist from Vanguard who has regularly written on that forum similiar comments, and its coincidental that Jack Napier who is an admitted National Socialist and yourself who is a supporter of National Socialism are not the same person.

So there are two National Socialist supporting Jack Napiers, and I criticize both you and the other for making the same comments that attack Jews, engage in hateful smeers and contribute nothing to a debate.

With due respect Mr. Napier I will continue to challenge your words and ideology as expressed on this forum. That does not make it personal. You make comments, I criticize or challenge those comments.

When you insult all Jews, you insult me and that is personal. I take care not to insult you and stick to criticizing the comments.

With due respect Mr. Napier you are trying to control what I can say in response to you. I will challenge your words. If you want to claim they are personal complain to the moderator and I will abide by their ruling.

However as readers suggested, it is your right to say what you do as it is mine. If you insult Jews or any other people for that matter, I will challenge your insults.

I believe your comments continue an agenda to use comments to share hatred against Jews and have not stuck to the topic of this thread.

May 05 2013, 12:53 PM#1




Jack Napier





Guru


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Of course 'National Socialism' is a viable form of Gov.



*reasonable discourse only please, personal attacks, off topic posts and so on, will be ignored*.

In this thread, I will attempt to demonstrate that not only would 'National Socialism' be a viable form of governance, but in many respects, it is the most 'natural' of political foundations, based on the very nature of our species, homo sapien.

 

Those of us with an IQ greater than room temperature can easily recognize the idiotic nature of the over-the-top heinous accusations of a binary thinking bigot.

Can't argue with faith, stupid or hate. And when all three come in one package it defines the term intransigent ignorance.

 

Like I said, you have trouble with comprehension and nuance.

apparently you cannot even entertain the notion that the binary perception of bigotry is just too simplistic to be of use in analysing much of the complexity of personality.

 

The simple fact remains......

Not that I expect this to sink in, but one must try.(again)

If near to 20% of the population here turned out to honour a man that had said...

Jews were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the gentiles

"Why are Jews needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,"

"With Jews, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Gentile." .....


This would equate to around 12million here.

Now imagine all the eulogies from non Jews about this gentile that has preached the above.

And you are trying to tell me the internet and corporate media would not go into meltdown?

And you are trying to make out like you would sort of take it all casual.

Sure man.

Sure you would.

Of course.

 

Well said!

It is so in-your-face, the hypocricy becomes more and more disgusting!

I cannot eat as much as I would like to womit!

 

For a start your numbers as Gilos has already said are exaggerated. The Jerusalem Post estimates 300,000

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/The-passing-of-Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-328627

I can remember reading once at Haaretz an article on this man by someone who was trying to understand how he could have changed from the man he was to what he became...but you will not know this. You will not know for instance that he first attracted the attention of Uri Avnery

http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html

and

http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html

From the Jerusalem Post article

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/The-passing-of-Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-328627

His life is certainly a whole lot more than what you are saying and trying to use to argue that Israel is smearing Europe as fostering hate and racist trends. He did not even represent or speak for Ashkenazi Jews - never mind the reality that most Israeli's are secular.

There certainly is in Israel within the settlers, people who I have said before have possibility of being as extreme as Al Qaeda and your quote illustrates that. I do not call all Muslims on what their most extreme say and I do not call all Israeli's never mind all Jews on what their most extreme say.

I have already presented you with an Israel article very critical of him and the celebrations. Here is another

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.551680

It is not that there are not things to be spoken of here, it is simply the twist you give to it, trying to present the distortions of his later life as the essential Jew.

 

So why do they not report anything about this racist in "German" media, if there are things to be spoken about?

Why do they hide this outrageous parade of racism that is now taking place in Israel from the German taxpayer that had to pay a lot of his taxes to support this racist regime, and has still to pay a lot of money in the future?

Here is a Jewish-German Media outlet that report on the matter:

These hypocrites just say that Yosef always attracted attention with his "polarizing statements". The rest of the article about Ovadia Yosef is pure eulogy.

They do not call his statements "racist" or "hateful", they just say they were "polarizing".



Here is another "German" "quality paper" that reports on Ovadia Yosef, and this media outlet does not mention at all that this Rabbi was a wicked Racist and a Goyim-Hater:

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/...-rabbi-ovadia-josef-letzte-ehre-12608793.html

But the same media outlet would call any German (who dared to say that Jews were created to serve the Germans) a "Nazi/Atisemite/Racist\Hater\Cannibal etc".

And if Frau Merkel told on his funeral that this German guy who publicly anounced that Jews were crated to serve the Germans was a "great German", she would be immediately fired from her job.

We have an obvious in-your-face double standard, and I hope that the "Goyim", that are compared to "donkeys" by this Jewish hater, that is now officially called "one of the greatest scholars of the Jewish law" will eventually awake from their slumber.