Israel vs. Palestine

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  1. RiseAgainst

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    Even if he didn't have reasons (he did), you're basically saying with good reason genocide is morally correct.

    I would say your moral compass is off balance, but I doubt it even exists at all......
     
  2. JewishIsrael

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    my moral compass broke when they killed my mothers uncle.
    and i am not saying that with good reason jenucide is ok, i am saying that with no choice, besides, my government didnt jenucide them, it is my idea, my government is a bunch of chickens who woried about what people like you might think.

    Hitler didnt have reasons, hes reasons were: "they take jobs from the locals" or "the destroy the occonomiy"
    my reasons are: "they killed 22,347 soldiers", "they performs many terror acts every year", "they simply wants me dead as much as i want them".
    here is my reasons, now compare.

    yet hitler buried the jews in hallsi n the ground, 2000 dead people on top of each other, he burned jews alive, or he just starved them to death, whilt we provide them with drags, food, fresh water, electricity, and you know who is paying for it? me, in my taxes.
     
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    here is the latest news from what happend today:
    arabs throw rocks on a moving bus the wad heading to Mishor Adumim.
    arabs robbed a Tow truck driver and threw the driver in mount Hebron. the driver made it by himself to the army base.
    arabs threw 13 Molotov cocktails and rocks to a MAGAV wariors.
    the IDF stopped 3 armed arabs with Molotov cocktails that was going to throw them in jerusalem and Gush Hazion.
    arabs throw 3 Molotov cocktails on a house.
    arabs rocbbed a female driver who drove a Toyota in road 55 near alias and escaped to calicilia.
     
  4. RiseAgainst

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    That's the same reasoning wife beaters give to their wives. "you leave me no choice" "there is no pleasure from me when I do this"

    nazis turned jews into nazis. It's really mind boggling

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    But you're right, they should be kissing your ass.
     
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    It is hard to hear what the Arab leaders said, because US presidents keep breaking promises of an open dialog with nations such as Iran. and I'm not a fan of Hamass, and I am not taking sides, because I do believe palestinians (leaders especially) could be more compassionate, but from Israeli standpoint, I see the big dog USA as the one creating more hate for Israel then Israel itself. it's a twisted animal and I do not think it represents the Jewish people one bit.
     
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    No you dont do these things, instead you move into their houses, take their farms and bulldoze their villages, then pretend youve all always been there.

    Is that because she is a grown up?

    Look, you guys dont like killing kids. We know that, however you do like to take land, you like to evict families and move in more jewish people instead.

    Thats what Israelis like doing. But you personally have already admitted youre a wannabe nazi. So if youre like that do you really think youre so unique in israel?
     
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    Tsk.

    That Megaphone software really needs to start attracting better lickspittles.

    You just let your mask slip, and your true nature shine through, way to quick.

    When you vanish from here, as your kind do after a little while, I hope your replacement is someone that can lie better, and keep the mask on tighter.

    It's more fun.

    Sieg Heil Zion Nazi's One And All...
     
  8. Jack Napier

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    What else do you expect?

    Think about it, I know you are intelligent.

    It is quite possible to induce a state of mental illness in a society.

    More than quite possible, it has been done, it is being done.

    Then, when one of the products of it is exposed to the outside world, he or she sounds like a nut.

    The more they speak, the more they reveal their true nature, and the more they sound nuts.

    It's because they are.

    Have you ever met someone that is nuts?

    You don't usually see it right away.

    It can take weeks.

    Months.

    Starts with little things.

    Then progresses.

    Then reaches critical mass, esp when faced with rejection or opposition.

    On the upside, while PF seems to permit Zionists basically putting out a call to murder, and implied threats to members, the fact that they do does a service.

    It let's us see the true face of the Zionist Israeli.

    Jack
     
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    Either that, or maybe he could get AIPAC to lobby for more welfare money to buy a new keyboard?

    After all....let's never forget the Boy In The Striped Pyjamas.
     
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    By that rationale then, one could argue that it was not the fault of the Reich that Jews were attacked.

    Jews made them do it.

    And those in the Warsaw Ghetto would be terrorists, right?

    You can only agree with that, if you want to be consistant.
     
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    LOL. This man exploded. Pathetic. He represents a pathetic 'country'. Human rights abuser and leech onto Western society.
     
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    Not sure if you are in US, or Italy, as your username would imply the latter.

    However, you are right, of course, in that one sentence.

    If you are in the US, further evidence that Zionist agents have infiltrated your country, can be seen by this rather frightening, and unconstitutional piece of legislation.(link below)

    Fools who think that such effort and expense is gone to, to write such things, and rubber stamp them with US approval, for them to lie dormant forever, are, well fools.

    These infiltrators design nothing without an end game, and I believe the end game here will be to make, as much as is possible, any form of criticism against Israhell an actual crime.

    See>>>>>>>http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rican-need-than-zionists-enslavement-you.html
     
  13. JewishIsrael

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    its not really a loss if it was never there place is it?
    the place was to belong to the othman empire, then to britain, the to jews.
    britain gave the paletinians Jordan, palestine is just a name that was given to the state by the UN, its dosnt make it theres.
    they should be kissing my ass, if they were living next to US, or if they were living next to France they would have kicking them to the curbs and let them die with no regards, and we provide them like i sad many times and you choose to ignore for some reason.
    and you forgot the manchen that most of the lands that we took we gave back for peace.
    including Gaza And the half island Sinai wich was a hunormess place. twice as large as israel.
     
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    You know, you're the reason that anti-Zionists movements exist. The most embarrassing representation of your side has ended in outburst after outburst.
     
  15. JewishIsrael

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    no its not because shes a grown up, she dosnt agree with both sides.
    and again my friend you are mistaken, latley it was discovered the Olpana village is an illegle built on palestinian lands, the government is now departing the houses from the land and moving it into israel teritory.
    so again check your facts.
    we dont buldoze their house, when our soldiers break into houses they are looking for terrorist and they dont harm the people at the house, if a palestinian will break into my house i think you know he will kill me, and if you think otherwise you are a hypocrit!
     
  16. JewishIsrael

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    its not my real mask, they pushed into thinking that, if you would leave here, if you would meet even one family who lost their sons you would think exactly like me.
    and the palestinians wants to throw my people into sea for the last 80, so i think its only fair i will reply in the same coin.

    and again its only my opinion. if you knew something about the israeli government you will know that they are chikens who afraid what people like you might think, i dont care what people think, the main priority is to protect our people, later on we will take care of others!

    maybe i sounded a little hardcore on that sentence, and belive me its not my nature, but yet when your family member will be murdered by paletinians or any enemy(and they did kill one of my family members) then you will say exactly the same.
     
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    im curios about you deleting the other part of the sentence and the comment when i sad and proved we dont do that.
    there is a diffrence between what you say, hitler took all jews, no matter they sex or speacy, and he started wasting them in purpose since 1941-1945, until then he just starved them to death.
     
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    She doesnt agree with both sides does she?

    Tell us, where was your family in 1948? In israel or elsewhere?

    Yes Ill check my facts ok. So....this Olpana village, was it built by palestinians? Or israelis? If Israelis doesnt that prove my point? That you guys like taking over land?

    1/ And did you know that from 1947 some 400 arab villages were bulldozed?

    2/ How many actual arab homes do you think were taken and moved in to by Israelis after 1948? A few or alot?

    3/ Did you know that the IDF not only takes the houses of the families of suicide bombers but demolishes them too? Didnt you know theyve done that numerous times?

    4/ Why are you so freaked out about palestinians? After all they have as much to fear from you guys, youve killed far more of them, taken more of their land and now squeeze them into little enclaves and dont let them go anywhere. Surely its you guys, who have all the weapons, who one should be afraid of.

    5/ Arent you really just a young Israeli boy who doesnt like arabs, but has never bothered to read the real history of your country from all sides in case you dont like what you find?

    6/ Shouldnt we wait til your a bit more grown up before we can take you seriously? After all, youve not even joined the army yet.

    7/ Are you going to kill some arab women and children when you get into the army or were you just bragging?
     
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    The fact that you have lost family members is tough for you, I am sure, but it does not make you special or exclusive.

    Lots of people lose loved family members all of the time, sometimes by an accident, sometimes not.

    Since Israel declared itself a state in 48, the number of Palestinians killed far outnumber that of Israeli's killed.

    What does this show us? That because you have a weapons advantage, you are better at killing more people.

    And these people also have family, right, who they love, yes?

    Or do you suppose that when they lose someone, that their pain and suffering is somehow lesser to your pain and suffering?

    That somehow it is righteous for you to be so full of hate, revenge, or murder of more Palestinians (and ANYONE that supports them!!!), but you do not think that is going to then cause a reaction, right the way back?

    If you are really an Israeli, then even you know FECK ALL compared to me, when it comes to living in countries that have been subjected to bombing.

    Seriously, what is the best know incident of an aircraft dropping bombs in Israel? How many Israeli's died?

    How many bombs not dropped from aircraft, have killed Israeli's?

    I am utterly sick of the whining and the paranoia from Israel, when my country, Britain, was bombed to such a degree by the Lufftwaffe, that much of it was left in ruins, and many many British died. Yet did not give in.

    My mother is from Malta. A tiny island to the south of Italy, yet a key geographic location for the Axis to have taken, during WW2.

    Despite a culture which does have much Italian influence among others, Malta happened to be on the 'side' of Britain et all, at that given time.

    Italy, the ally of Germany, they decided to bomb Malta into surrender, cut off supplies, and force them to switch allegiance, so that Italy and Germany could secure this key location.

    Malta said no.

    And so began the siege of Malta, in which bombs battered Malta, day and night, yet this tiny island of half a million, they still would not surrender.

    Quite a feat of resistance, when you consider the might they were against, in Italy and Germany.

    Anyway, Britain had initially thought that there was almost no use guarding Malta, as they thought there was no way that Malta could possibly resist such forces. Yet when the Maltese people showed that they could and did resist well, the RAF and Navy were there to ringfence the island, the upshot being that Malta was given the honour of the George Cross for gallantry and heroism, when faced with such might.

    The point is that on the British side of my family, I lost people.

    And on the Maltese side, I lost people.

    But this does not mean that I want to see Germans die, or Italians suffer, or anyone that 'supports Germany or Italy'.

    Seriously, if you are genuine with what you say, then the best antidote to less killing and hate, is not MORE killing and hate!

    The answer is the opposite, believe it or not.

    In your case, that might be to come to terms with it, in a better and healthier manner, than you appear to be, because it truly isn't a healthy manner.

    Then you might consider that there are Palestinians that feel just as you do, for the same reasons.

    Then you need to really start asking, 'Are we sure we must keep going like this'?

    You don't need to.

    If enough people in Israel were of a mind, you could turn the page, and just accept that a variation of Zionist policies, from whatever Zionist party gets voted in, will always produce more dead, be they Israeli or otherwise.

    I'm afraid that until you grasp that message, and replace it with what you have going on now, you will be eaten up from the inside, and you may go the same way as one of those relatives you mourn. Or you may one day kill an innocent person, and then you are no better than what you hate.

    Is that really what you want for your life, never mind as an Israeli, or a Jew, or whatever, as a human being, is that really how you want your mind to be, ten years from now?

    Jack
     
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    He's banned. One less Zionist troll.
     
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    Could be temporary.

    Wouldn't surprise me if his narrative was made up.

    Perhaps to illicit false sympathy?

    One would hope that he isn't a typical example of Israeli's.

    Perhaps if Gilos sees this, he could share his thoughts on the words of his fellow countryman here.

    Jack
     
  22. JewishIsrael

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    it was build by israely "mitnahlim", wich is illegle builders, our government cant control them, but our primary house of lour aproved the move of those homes into israeli teritory.

    1. in 1947 they were offered to share the land, and they could live the rest of their lifes in that home, once they sad no, and they gave as the countey, we had all right to buldoze those villages, in order to build new ones for our people, like i sad, our promary concern in us not them, we dont need to care about them, yet we do from some reason that i dont understand.

    2. we paid with money to some of them, the ithers ran away after their plan to mureder us all had failed

    3. ofcurse they are demolishing it! there is explosives there, amo, guns and man more, why should we give them a reward for being a sucide bomber??

    4. because they are animals, we killed more cause we are stronger not cause we are worse then them, there is no reason that we should feel bad for them, they killed over 20,000 soldiers! have you ever heared of the "Intifada"? you know what it is? palestinians go on the streets and kill jews for no reason, they see a jew, they stabd him, they see a kid they snap his neck, so belibe me that i have reasones to be afraid. and we took lands in a war that they have started, we took them so they cant attack us from there, it created soured of a wall between us and them, we didnt popilate most of those lands, and some of them we gave back for peace reasones.

    5. yes i am a young israeli, and no i dont like arabs, but dont tell its "just", they killed one of my relatives, they killed many people from my hometown, i have all the reasones in thw world to hate them, and they can feel free to hate me, and they do. i know history, apparently you dont.
    the "Balfur Declaration" alowed jewish imigration from europe, when we started to develop our villages and we started to grow by number, they got scared that they will loose their majority, they started to kill jews, so we started to kill back, but britain was on their side, we could pray at the "The Western Wall", atleast not how we suppose to, the britain released the "White Book", wich is a book of rules of what jews cant do, isnt that nice?
    learn some history youself, learn who started, learn who wanted war, and they come talk to me, because from you education level, you couldnt be over 16!

    6. no you shouldnt, israeli kids grow much faster then other, i mean by behavior, they dont have many time to grow into the real word, by the age of 7 kids know about everything, what to do in a crysis of a war, a missile attack, and many other things, they are forced to grow up like this, because of them, while the palestinians bring a terorist to school to lacture about why it is so good the kill jews. i will join the army, like I sad before i am not going to be a warior, because i dont belibe in killing, but i do belive that when someone strikes you, you need to strike back, that is what we do.

    7. like i sad in my answer to you preious question, i am not going to be a warior, belive out soldiers dosnt kill kids and woman(beside woman who are terrorists), and they sure dont brag about that, i only sad what i sad when you pissed me of, I myself have palestinians friends, so what? so no to you questiom, i am not going to kill woman and kids and i am not going to brag about that.

    here is a picture of an israeli baby that palestinians threw rocks on her!:
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    again you mistake us for the savgous, think again.
     
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    i am going to reply only to your first few rows, cause i see where this comment is going and i am not gonna read it all.
    the diffrent between the lose of our soldiers and the lose of their "soldiers" is that our people dosnt growing their kids to fight and kill, its a mothers worst nightmare when her kids is going to be a warior in the IDF, my brother is going to be a warior and my mom cant sleep at night.
    yet palestinians are grown into being terrorists, they parents teach them that its ok to kill jews and thats exactly what they should do, terrorists visit kinder gardens\schools and telling kids that they themselves need to kill jews, so see the diffrenrce.

    about the weapons, i know we are stronger, that dosnt make us better in killing, air strike is never an accurate thing, you cant decide who live and who dies, we do our best to clean up the area before a bombing by sending notes that fall from a plain in the sky into the teritory that sas in arab "live the area it is about to get bombed", thats the best we can do, if they dont listen, we dont have control of what is about to happend.
     
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    Resolutuon 181 was a partition of their land; in other words, it would have split their land to form two seperate states. The Arabs had every right to reject having their land split in half and given to immigrants.

    No, the Arabs did not 'give' you the 'country.' The Zionists chose to ignore the wishes of the Palestinians and declared unilateral dependence; further the Zionists were ethnically cleansing the Palestinians before and after their declaration of independence.

    Thus, the Arabs had every right to attack the newly formed state of Israel.
     
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    This reminds me of the children's threat of "I'm gonna start swinging my fists while walking. And if you get in the way, well, that's your fault."
    When it gets right down to it, two "wrongs" do not make a "right". And just because some on their side kill innocents does not give you the right to act likewise.
     

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