Jesus' last words

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  1. Migrunt

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    Nope, not earned or randomly handed out. It's right there. Believe and receive. You're being silly and I'm ready to ignore you.
     
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    Okay. Whatever. Good luck.
     
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    Smarter not wiser.
     
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    I think it best if you do as my points annoy you even if you do not understand them....it happens quite often with individuals of purposeful ignorance.

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    Heh....at least you admit it.
     
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    "It is by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God and not the result of works that no one may boast"
     
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    He will die too and all his accomplishments will be for naught.
     
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    His real last words were, "Whatever you do, do not let Robert DeNiro play me in the movie!"
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NOPE, allegedly your god did.

    He allegedly created everything, there was NOTHING before god....so if he is the creator he is the creator.....if he's a dunce at manufacturing a good product it is NOT the product's fault...





    Blah, blah, excuse god, excuse god ...he didn't REALLY create everything and has no control of anything....weak, very weak..


    I thank you for NOT using the standard, trite, meaningless phrase, "god works in mysterious ways"....the usual excuse ….
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that is the Christian superstition. ONE GOD ..... but THREE GODS. Like Ray Stevens said, "He's everywhere, he's everywhere!"
     
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    Bye.
     
  12. Migrunt

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    Nope. Three PERSONS, one God.
     
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    And you know that how, exactly?
     
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    None of them knew what it was like to ne in perfect union for an infinite amount of previous time. Then suddenly separated from that union.
     
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    The Trinity is not about three persons. Christianity is as much of a Monotheism as Stalin was an anti-Fascist and the American invasion of Irak was an act of Democracy. It's all thinly-disguised hokus pokus filiokus.
     
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    I've never seen so many trolls on a forum. Doesn't say much for your moderators.
     
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    The way it was always explained to me was that he was quoting Psalms.

    The one that always got me was "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." The idea that forgiveness for sins can be granted due to ignorance and doesn't require repentance or any kind of acceptance of Jesus, and can even be granted to those who expressly reject him, flies in the face of the later Pauline Christianity that became "traditional" Christianity.
     
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    Just continue walking. Pretend you don't know me.
     
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    They are here to tear down, not to contribute to the discussion.
     
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    Sad. Spiritual warfare, for sure.
     
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    Wasn’t paul the guy who told us about christ without ever having met him? I would think that one or more of the 12 apostles would have a more accurate basis to inform us.... or write books about the topic. Instead.... ALL the so called scripture was written be people with no direct knowledge of jesus.

    For me, i would think that if god went to the extremis of sending his only son to save the world...he would have arranged to have at least one person who met his son who would make a first person account of what he said that was so important
     
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    I may or may not. That doesn't matter.
    For I posted words from the Bible. Not my opinion or knowledge.

    Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
    7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

    Credibility of the bible is up to each person.
     
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    Because many Christians do?
    There are some protestants denominations that have in their doctrine the bible is the literal and inspired word of god. All of it.
    RC is also closely tied to the belief the bible is the literal and inspired word of god.
    So, there's a lot of christians that believe the bible literally. So it's not a strawman.

    And yes, to those Christian religions that believe the 100% literal inspired word of god, any others are NOT true Christians.
     
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    The Bible is based upon superstition. Those who wrote it were afraid of the dark and terrified of monsters at the edge of a flat earth.

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    God - in His infinite wisdom - never sent any offspring to act as His emissary. God is quite capable of doing his own bidding. Does any "believer" not understand that? They must think God is an idiot.
     
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    "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

    It is 100% Gods word to be interpreted with the original meaning. It is not all historical it is not all literal. some of it is poetry, some of it is song, some of it is straight up history some of it is allegorical some of it is prophetical.

    ancient Greek Hebrew and Aramaic are much more dynamic languages than modern english more tenses of verbs than we use, nouns that are much more specific than we use. reading and english translation from a modern American english language perspective will get you the basics but that's about it.
     

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