Libs, get a clue.It isn't Whites or racism holding Blacks down.

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  1. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    You keep saying that blacks are held back. By who? And how long ago was that?
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    What? I don't blame them for voting democrat I blame the democrats for lying all the time and yelling "racist!" Anytime people want to get serious. They do this to silence their opposition. That is what demagogues do. They care nothing about solutions, only power. Your post and analysis sum this up.
     
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    Let's put it this way: Louis Farrakhan, as nutty as he is in other areas, has correctly identified the problem here: Blacks to a larger degree than other races in the US aren't accepting responsibility for their kids, their women, or their education - and he's trying to do something about it. Tell the men to get an education, get a job, dress for success, marry your woman. Not sure about the bowties, but hey - whatever works. It's good advice for anyone really. Frankly, he's got the right idea, especially since the solution is gonna have to come from a Black himself rather than some well-meaning but misguided liberal nutjob. And even then it's iffy - as has been noted, Cosby said much the same and got crucified in the press for it. But Farrakhan has the boots on the ground for it.

    Bottom line though - Blacks - or any race or individual, really - are never going to achieve success as long as they get their fashion sense from Cell Block B. *cough*saggin*cough*
     
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    They can never admit that any of their programs fail, or even have downsides. Look at how they reacted to the litany of obamacare issues. They dont even care that is the largest middle class tax increase in history. They just dodge and ignore and go back to trlling "racism". If racism is the problem, then a lot of blame goes to them anyway. You wont find a republican in power in any of the places that deliver hopelessness and not much more.

    Lefterism is a religion based on state worship. Can you convince fundamentalists Christians that Christ was flawed? Same idea. That is why there can be no meaningful dialogue with the left.
     
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    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    They clutch propaganda bullet points to their breasts and remember when -- not so very long ago -- the mainstream media backed them to the very HILT every time they began one of these little hate-based fits of hysteria. So they are . . . nostalgic.
     
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    By the way every one, Merry Christmas.

    At the end of the day these debates are merely tremendous fun and I do enjoy jousting with you all every day.

    Hope you all are having or about to have for us Europeans, a nice one.
     
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    creation New Member

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    Read their history.
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Why is history holding them back now?
     
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    Ahh the typical "well the whole continent of africa owned slaves (even though I cant give u dates or countries that did this) excuse

    Funny they do the same thing when it comes to europeans coming here and killing indians ( well they were killing each other)

    So they think europeans can do no wrong and deflect the attention to make europeans look innocent

    They tell blacks to get over slavery yet they dont tell jews to get over being slaves in egypt...or to get over there jesus dying over 2000 years ago

    Hypocrisy anyone?
     
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    Jews are not dwelling in the past. If they were I would tell them the same thing. Get over the past and start a life.
     
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    The welfare laws that were designed to redistribute wealth are what caused the lack of morals, as in the 1990's the Republican congress made Clinton sign a compromised bill that took the incentive for fathers to stay in their families. When welfare no longer included men, it created the destruction of the family unit.

    The lack of morals are not in the immediate family, but higher up in the congress for taking away taxpayer assistance to oppressed families.
     
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    That's why they were "designed"? (BS.)
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    That law was for all races not just blacks.
     
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    Is THAT the best you got? Insulting the other members does not substitute for intellectual responses.
     
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    Sure I agree with that but why cant you say the same about other races?

    Indeed blacks arent accepting responsbility but theyve also been mistreated to a large degree than other races in the US.

    Why cant you accept that and appreciate them instead?
     
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    It prevents them from having as large and experienced a middle and upper investing class as the whites. Theyre born without the same cultural and material resources by definition. More of them are born into the working class and lower.
     
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    Why do you think that it is only blacks that have been mistreated?
     
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    "A" company, he invested in hundreds of companies and made his millions turning around American companies and making them profitable.

    Domino's Pizza
    Staples

    Since is investing internationally an albatross over someones head?

    You don't balance out your investment portfolio and retirement accounts with foreign investment or something?

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    What jobs were ended here and outsourced to China?
     
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    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Being born into a lower class doesn't have anything to do with it. As I stated earlier my parents were born dirt poor. They made a good life for me and my brother. No one gave them anything. Only you can make a life for you and your family.
     
  20. creation

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    How about you just ignore them and focus on the white working class democrat voters? Oh wait....when you turn your attention on them as a conservative youll just blame them for their poverty....

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    Some other large group who had to ride on the back of the bus you had in mind?
     
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    Yes it took Republican Barry Goldwater to start the desegregation of the country's militaries.
     
  22. teeko

    teeko New Member Past Donor

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    Wasn't that over 40 years ago.
     
  23. creation

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    No actually it does, while some like your parents, will obviously do well despite their circumstances others will not. Money and other capital assets are not everything but they are a significant factor that makes an impact across the macro scale.

    Moreover ask yourself, why were your parents born dirt poor? Does that mean their parents were simply lazy? Or was some other factor at play?
     
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    My mom was born in 1919 does that answer your question.
     
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    As I said we went to the same schools and I have never lived in poor district don't now, one of the more upper middle class in the state.

    Either quote where I said that or admit you made it up.

    So what, my success was not built on someone else's history, I took advantage of the opportunities out there just as black can and in fact have more as when I noted it was easier for blacks to gain admitence and gain financial access to higher education than it was for my kids.
    One does not lead to the other, it is up to the individual. If you drop out of school, have kids before you marry you don't have a lot of chance for success. Both of those are much more prevalent in the black community along with criminality which will also hamper your success in life.

    Didn't say me in particular did I, why do you seem to have such a problem with reading comprehension?
     
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